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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Various reasons to escape [[GFDL]] hell:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Lawrence Lessig]] is a rational legal scholar who studies licenses and the way they affect content sharing.  He is a far more valuable person to have on board than [[Jim Wales]] or [[Richard Stallman]] who are both one-hit wonders.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[GFDL]] is worthless now since it has been [[Wikipedia violates GFDL|twisted so badly no one knows what it means or who has given permission for what]].  At least we must move to [[CC-by-sa]] or better [[CC-by-nc-sa]] (allows use of some commercially reserved works like [[GetWiki]]) for code&lt;br /&gt;
*we could avoid discussing [[Wikipedia]], [[Wikimedia]], and their lies, liars, [[libel pit]]s, mindless [[sysop power structure]] composed ONLY of idiots, other crimes and [[wiki witchhunt]]s and get back to doing some serious design work on a project that will perhaps not collapse the second a lawyer sniffs it (as theirs will)&lt;br /&gt;
*CC&amp;#039;s idea of [[share-alike]] is much better defined than [[GFDL]]&amp;#039;s mess which has loopholes - by being simpler, CC demands everyone behave reasonably rather than trying to specify a whole lot of messy requirements re: specific parts of documentation which are easy to &amp;quot;play&amp;quot; and generate counter-productive variants&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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