Social economy - Revision history

Jukeboksi at 18:24, 3 May 2021

2021-05-03T18:24:32Z

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	Where [[Consumerium Services]] fit into a larger social economy is less clear. [http://socialsoftware.weblogsinc.com Suw Charman] relates (based on sources[[Business 4Site]] and [[eWeek]]) that "[[Jas Dhillon]], president and CEO of [[ZeroDegrees]] Inc. considers the most important motivator to be the '''favour economy''' - the mutually beneficial nature of online business relationships. However, [[Antony Brydon]], co-founder and CEO of [[Visible Path]] Corp. considers cold, hard cash to be the best incentive."		Where [[Consumerium Services]] fit into a larger social economy is less clear. [http://socialsoftware.weblogsinc.com Suw Charman] relates (based on sources[[Business 4Site]] and [[eWeek]]) that "[[Jas Dhillon]], president and CEO of [[ZeroDegrees]] Inc. considers the most important motivator to be the '''favour economy''' - the mutually beneficial nature of online business relationships. However, [[Antony Brydon]], co-founder and CEO of [[Visible Path]] Corp. considers cold, hard cash to be the best incentive."

	According to eWeek, Brydon "dismissed the notion that goodwill alone will motivate people to join and become engaged in [[social network]]ing. way,Brydon said. '''favor economy''' is where we started, and we quickly moved to the '''barter economy''' and then the economy economy. an ideological point that will become a real issue for what to do to move things along faster [in this industry]. How this all relates to [[ecological yield]] and growth in [[natural capital]], only [[trolls]] can say probably. No doubt they will.		According to eWeek, Brydon "dismissed the notion that goodwill alone will motivate people to join and become engaged in [[social network]]ing. �No way,� Brydon said. �The '''favor economy''' is where we started, and we quickly moved to the '''barter economy''' and then the economy economy. It�s an ideological point that will become a real issue for what to do to move things along faster [in this industry].� How this all relates to [[ecological yield]] and growth in [[natural capital]], only [[trolls]] can say probably. No doubt they will.

Jukeboksi: rm bomis bashing, fix link, interesting article

2004-08-31T07:45:45Z

rm bomis bashing, fix link, interesting article

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	"In a recent interview, [[Howard Rheingold]] (author of Smart Mobs) discussed the possibility of a 'new economic system' born of 'unconscious cooperation' embodied by such technologies as [[Google]] links and [[Amazon.com]] lists, [[Wikipedia]], [[worn device\|wireless device]]s using [[unlicensed spectrum]], [[blog\|Web logs]], and [[open source software]]." [[Trolls]] of course defy this model and are very often accused of conciously cooperating in [[troll organization]]s.		"In a recent interview, [[Howard Rheingold]] (author of Smart Mobs) discussed the possibility of a 'new economic system' born of 'unconscious cooperation' embodied by such technologies as [[Google]] links and [[Amazon.com]] lists, [[Wikipedia]], [[worn device\|wireless device]]s using [[unlicensed spectrum]], [[blog\|Web logs]], and [[open source software]]." [[Trolls]] of course defy this model and are very often accused of conciously cooperating in [[troll organization]]s.

	"Rheingold speculates that 'the technology of the Internet, [[reputation]] systems, [[online community\|online communities, mobile devices...may make some new economic system possible... We had markets, then we had capitalism, and socialism was a reaction to industrial-era capitalism. There's been an assumption that since communism failed, capitalism is triumphant, therefore humans have stopped evolving new systems for economic production.'" - [http://slashdot.org/articles/04/08/17/2138201.shtml?tid=95&tid=1] That of course is an assumption only of the capitalist elite in countries where all economic development has stalled. [[Trolls]] continue the development anyway, and would consider this idea that communism "failed" to be, simply, stupidity. The emergence of the [[Wikipedia Red Faction]] proves it is still very viable.		"Rheingold speculates that 'the technology of the Internet, [[reputation]] systems, [[online community\|online communities]], mobile devices...may make some new economic system possible... We had markets, then we had capitalism, and socialism was a reaction to industrial-era capitalism. There's been an assumption that since communism failed, capitalism is triumphant, therefore humans have stopped evolving new systems for economic production.'" - [http://slashdot.org/articles/04/08/17/2138201.shtml?tid=95&tid=1] That of course is an assumption only of the capitalist elite in countries where all economic development has stalled. [[Trolls]] continue the development anyway, and would consider this idea that communism "failed" to be, simply, stupidity. The emergence of the [[Wikipedia Red Faction]] proves it is still very viable.

	=== struggle makes society ===		=== struggle makes society ===
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	=== favor and barter ===		=== favor and barter ===

	Where [[Consumerium Services]] fit into a larger social economy is less clear. [http://socialsoftware.weblogsinc.com Suw Charman] relates (based on sources[[Business 4Site]] and [[eWeek]]) that "[[Jas Dhillon]], president and CEO of [[ZeroDegrees]] Inc. considers the most important motivator to be the '''favour economy''' - the mutually beneficial nature of online business relationships. However, [[Antony Brydon]], co-founder and CEO of [[Visible Path]] Corp. considers cold, hard cash to be the best incentive." ~~Both would seem to differ from the [[Bomis]] view that [[Wikimedia corruption]] and intense dispute over [[factionally defined]] terms provides the highest profits - for Bomis alone.~~		Where [[Consumerium Services]] fit into a larger social economy is less clear. [http://socialsoftware.weblogsinc.com Suw Charman] relates (based on sources[[Business 4Site]] and [[eWeek]]) that "[[Jas Dhillon]], president and CEO of [[ZeroDegrees]] Inc. considers the most important motivator to be the '''favour economy''' - the mutually beneficial nature of online business relationships. However, [[Antony Brydon]], co-founder and CEO of [[Visible Path]] Corp. considers cold, hard cash to be the best incentive."

	According to eWeek, Brydon "dismissed the notion that goodwill alone will motivate people to join and become engaged in [[social network]]ing. �No way,� Brydon said. �The '''favor economy''' is where we started, and we quickly moved to the '''barter economy''' and then the economy economy. It�s an ideological point that will become a real issue for what to do to move things along faster [in this industry].� How this all relates to [[ecological yield]] and growth in [[natural capital]], only [[trolls]] can say probably. No doubt they will.		According to eWeek, Brydon "dismissed the notion that goodwill alone will motivate people to join and become engaged in [[social network]]ing. �No way,� Brydon said. �The '''favor economy''' is where we started, and we quickly moved to the '''barter economy''' and then the economy economy. It�s an ideological point that will become a real issue for what to do to move things along faster [in this industry].� How this all relates to [[ecological yield]] and growth in [[natural capital]], only [[trolls]] can say probably. No doubt they will.

142.177.103.156: better subtitles to clarify roles of trolls vs. sysops in the struggle

2004-08-30T19:14:13Z

better subtitles to clarify roles of trolls vs. sysops in the struggle

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			Where do the '''social economy''' and [[moral purchasing power]] intersect?

			=== starting from stupidity ===

	"In a recent interview, [[Howard Rheingold]] (author of Smart Mobs) discussed the possibility of a 'new economic system' born of 'unconscious cooperation' embodied by such technologies as [[Google]] links and [[Amazon.com]] lists, [[Wikipedia]], [[worn device\|wireless device]]s using [[unlicensed spectrum]], [[blog\|Web logs]], and [[open source software]]." [[Trolls]] of course defy this model and are very often accused of conciously cooperating in [[troll organization]]s.		"In a recent interview, [[Howard Rheingold]] (author of Smart Mobs) discussed the possibility of a 'new economic system' born of 'unconscious cooperation' embodied by such technologies as [[Google]] links and [[Amazon.com]] lists, [[Wikipedia]], [[worn device\|wireless device]]s using [[unlicensed spectrum]], [[blog\|Web logs]], and [[open source software]]." [[Trolls]] of course defy this model and are very often accused of conciously cooperating in [[troll organization]]s.

	"Rheingold speculates that 'the technology of the Internet, [[reputation]] systems, [[online community\|online communities, mobile devices...may make some new economic system possible... We had markets, then we had capitalism, and socialism was a reaction to industrial-era capitalism. There's been an assumption that since communism failed, capitalism is triumphant, therefore humans have stopped evolving new systems for economic production.'" - [http://slashdot.org/articles/04/08/17/2138201.shtml?tid=95&tid=1] That of course is an assumption only of the capitalist elite in countries where all economic development has stalled. [[Trolls]] continue the development anyway.		"Rheingold speculates that 'the technology of the Internet, [[reputation]] systems, [[online community\|online communities, mobile devices...may make some new economic system possible... We had markets, then we had capitalism, and socialism was a reaction to industrial-era capitalism. There's been an assumption that since communism failed, capitalism is triumphant, therefore humans have stopped evolving new systems for economic production.'" - [http://slashdot.org/articles/04/08/17/2138201.shtml?tid=95&tid=1] That of course is an assumption only of the capitalist elite in countries where all economic development has stalled. [[Trolls]] continue the development anyway, and would consider this idea that communism "failed" to be, simply, stupidity. The emergence of the [[Wikipedia Red Faction]] proves it is still very viable.

			=== struggle makes society ===

	A robust '''social economy''' consisting of cooperating parties doing voluntary social and ecological work at all scales and across all borders, defying any [[power structure]] to knit strong [[faction]]s together that can defy any one [[sysop power structure]] even at [[Wikipedia]], is the [[community building]] that creates [[social capital]] based on resistance to [[sysop vandalism]] and promotion of [[troll-sysop struggle]]. In other words, through [[trolling]] and [[troll-friendly]] practices, all trolls including sysops must eventually encounter each other's perspective, negotiate, and find [[political virtues]] in common. These virtues enable more rapid formation of social capital itself, so that [[grown trust]] soon outstrips [[found trust]] in any given web forum.		A robust '''social economy''' consisting of cooperating parties doing voluntary social and ecological work at all scales and across all borders, defying any [[power structure]] to knit strong [[faction]]s together that can defy any one [[sysop power structure]] even at [[Wikipedia]], is the [[community building]] that creates [[social capital]] based on resistance to [[sysop vandalism]] and promotion of [[troll-sysop struggle]]. In other words, through [[trolling]] and [[troll-friendly]] practices, all trolls including sysops must eventually encounter each other's perspective, negotiate, and find [[political virtues]] in common. These virtues enable more rapid formation of social capital itself, so that [[grown trust]] soon outstrips [[found trust]] in any given web forum.

	The [[social network software]] that enables this best will be [[Consumerium Services]], which unlike other [[social software]] is founded on the most basic principle of [[gnawlij]]: suppressed information is (at least slightly) more likely to be true. Accordingly, trolls are (at least slightly) more likely to be correct, and the [[New Troll point of view]] must become the [[Consumerium buying signal]] almost by definition - a near perfect [[gnawlij]] expression.		The [[social network software]] that enables this best will be [[Consumerium Services]], which unlike other [[social software]] is founded on the most basic principle of [[gnawlij]]: suppressed information is (at least slightly) more likely to be true. Accordingly, trolls are (at least slightly) more likely to be correct, and the [[New Troll point of view]] must become the [[Consumerium buying signal]] almost by definition - a near perfect [[gnawlij]] expression.

			=== favor and barter ===

			Where [[Consumerium Services]] fit into a larger social economy is less clear. [http://socialsoftware.weblogsinc.com Suw Charman] relates (based on sources[[Business 4Site]] and [[eWeek]]) that "[[Jas Dhillon]], president and CEO of [[ZeroDegrees]] Inc. considers the most important motivator to be the '''favour economy''' - the mutually beneficial nature of online business relationships. However, [[Antony Brydon]], co-founder and CEO of [[Visible Path]] Corp. considers cold, hard cash to be the best incentive." Both would seem to differ from the [[Bomis]] view that [[Wikimedia corruption]] and intense dispute over [[factionally defined]] terms provides the highest profits - for Bomis alone.

142.177.103.156: quite nicely trolled

2004-08-30T18:59:53Z

quite nicely trolled

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"In a recent interview, [[Howard Rheingold]] (author of Smart Mobs) discussed the possibility of a 'new economic system' born of 'unconscious cooperation' embodied by such technologies as [[Google]] links and [[Amazon.com]] lists, [[Wikipedia]], [[worn device|wireless device]]s using [[unlicensed spectrum]], [[blog|Web logs]], and [[open source software]]." [[Trolls]] of course defy this model and are very often accused of conciously cooperating in [[troll organization]]s.

"Rheingold speculates that 'the technology of the Internet, [[reputation]] systems, [[online community|online communities, mobile devices...may make some new economic system possible... We had markets, then we had capitalism, and socialism was a reaction to industrial-era capitalism. There's been an assumption that since communism failed, capitalism is triumphant, therefore humans have stopped evolving new systems for economic production.'" - [http://slashdot.org/articles/04/08/17/2138201.shtml?tid=95&tid=1] That of course is an assumption only of the capitalist elite in countries where all economic development has stalled. [[Trolls]] continue the development anyway.

A robust '''social economy''' consisting of cooperating parties doing voluntary social and ecological work at all scales and across all borders, defying any [[power structure]] to knit strong [[faction]]s together that can defy any one [[sysop power structure]] even at [[Wikipedia]], is the [[community building]] that creates [[social capital]] based on resistance to [[sysop vandalism]] and promotion of [[troll-sysop struggle]]. In other words, through [[trolling]] and [[troll-friendly]] practices, all trolls including sysops must eventually encounter each other's perspective, negotiate, and find [[political virtues]] in common. These virtues enable more rapid formation of social capital itself, so that [[grown trust]] soon outstrips [[found trust]] in any given web forum.

The [[social network software]] that enables this best will be [[Consumerium Services]], which unlike other [[social software]] is founded on the most basic principle of [[gnawlij]]: suppressed information is (at least slightly) more likely to be true. Accordingly, trolls are (at least slightly) more likely to be correct, and the [[New Troll point of view]] must become the [[Consumerium buying signal]] almost by definition - a near perfect [[gnawlij]] expression.