Simple English Wikipedia - Revision history

142.177.114.228: some IP blocks apparently lifted, but, deletions remain, so don't trust the Simple English Wikipedia - if they like what we write, they can nab it from here (GFDL) and credit it to Consumerium

2004-01-07T23:20:51Z

some IP blocks apparently lifted, but, deletions remain, so don't trust the Simple English Wikipedia - if they like what we write, they can nab it from here (GFDL) and credit it to Consumerium

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	However in its present form the project cannot possibly serve that purpose, as it uses too poor a vocabulary and has no mission to be comprehensible or apply any clear standard or [[defining vocabulary]] discipline. It also refuses to consider or even discuss [[user demographic]] or [[user psychographic]] methods used in real world projects (like the [[user story]] approach) and has even been effectively taken over by a known [[inquisitor]]. Thus it has no role in Consumerium, and has effectively become one of the worst [[enemy projects]] - something that is not a basis for translation, for definition, and is driving off its most experienced contributors for what amount to [[ad hominem]] [[conflicts between users]] which arise solely out of [[witch-hunt]] tactics.		However in its present form the project cannot possibly serve that purpose, as it uses too poor a vocabulary and has no mission to be comprehensible or apply any clear standard or [[defining vocabulary]] discipline. It also refuses to consider or even discuss [[user demographic]] or [[user psychographic]] methods used in real world projects (like the [[user story]] approach) and has even been effectively taken over by a known [[inquisitor]]. Thus it has no role in Consumerium, and has effectively become one of the worst [[enemy projects]] - something that is not a basis for translation, for definition, and is driving off its most experienced contributors for what amount to [[ad hominem]] [[conflicts between users]] which arise solely out of [[witch-hunt]] tactics.

	It is ~~now one~~ of the ~~least~~ [[troll-friendly]] ~~projects and~~ those ~~who are part of~~ its [[sysop power structure]] ~~should in general~~ be [[driven off by trolls]] so they do not also destroy ''this'' project, or any [[essential projects]] we care about.		Interestingly, it has reverted some of its [[IP block]]s, but legitimate but deleted material is not restored nor visible for ordinary user discussion, so the effect of this is simply to make the SEW somewhat more GFDL compliant, as text can be retrieved from these previously blocked IPs and used in much more responsible projects with no [[sysop vandalism]] which are more [[troll-friendly]]. Whether those in its [[sysop power structure]] need to be [[driven off by trolls]] so they do not also destroy ''this'' project, or any [[essential projects]] we care about, might even be discussed someday if there is a serious examination of the issues regarding [[Simple English]] and the degree to which Wikipedia abandons [[GodKing]]s to become [[troll-friendly]]. This seems unlikely in the near future.

			In the meantime, to submit any serious [[glossary]] or [[Simple English]] material directly to the SEW is to make it possibly unavailable in future, as with [[social network]], [[contact network]], [[power network]], etc., which are rather essential terms for discussing any [[power structure]] rationally. Unlike the SEW, [[Consumerium]] should deliberately explain these issues in the simplest terms so that anyone can help resolve a [[political dispute]]. This is not possible of course if these terms are not even defined in [[Simple English]], so, there will remain terms that by editorial policy are required to be part of [[Consumerium]] but which are subject to arbitrary out-of-process deletion at SEW or indeed any [[Wikimedia]] project ruled by their [[GodKing]].

			In brief, avoid. Any project that deliberately wastes the time of Consumerium contributors is one of the [[enemy projects]] until it proves otherwise over a fairly long period of time, and actually engages the facts of governance and editorial issues we need resolved to cooperate with them.

142.177.114.228: we care, so we can't let this happen to truly essential projects

2004-01-07T22:22:17Z

we care, so we can't let this happen to truly essential projects

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	However in its present form the project cannot possibly serve that purpose, as it uses too poor a vocabulary and has no mission to be comprehensible or apply any clear standard or [[defining vocabulary]] discipline. It also refuses to consider or even discuss [[user demographic]] or [[user psychographic]] methods used in real world projects (like the [[user story]] approach) and has even been effectively taken over by a known [[inquisitor]]. Thus it has no role in Consumerium, and has effectively become one of the worst [[enemy projects]] - something that is not a basis for translation, for definition, and is driving off its most experienced contributors for what amount to [[ad hominem]] [[conflicts between users]] which arise solely out of [[witch-hunt]] tactics.		However in its present form the project cannot possibly serve that purpose, as it uses too poor a vocabulary and has no mission to be comprehensible or apply any clear standard or [[defining vocabulary]] discipline. It also refuses to consider or even discuss [[user demographic]] or [[user psychographic]] methods used in real world projects (like the [[user story]] approach) and has even been effectively taken over by a known [[inquisitor]]. Thus it has no role in Consumerium, and has effectively become one of the worst [[enemy projects]] - something that is not a basis for translation, for definition, and is driving off its most experienced contributors for what amount to [[ad hominem]] [[conflicts between users]] which arise solely out of [[witch-hunt]] tactics.

	It is now one of the least [[troll-friendly]] projects and those who are part of its [[sysop power structure]] should in general be [[driven off by trolls]] so they do not also destroy ''this'' project, or any [[essential projects]] ~~at all~~.		It is now one of the least [[troll-friendly]] projects and those who are part of its [[sysop power structure]] should in general be [[driven off by trolls]] so they do not also destroy ''this'' project, or any [[essential projects]] we care about.

142.177.114.228: what's happened to it, sadly

2004-01-07T22:20:33Z

what's happened to it, sadly

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	'''Simple English Wikipedia''' is a source of [[glossary]] definitions that those with a less developed knowledge of English will be able to understand. See the [http://simple.wikipedia.org simple English Wikipedia] itself for more.		'''Simple English Wikipedia''' is a source of [[glossary]] definitions that those with a less developed knowledge of English will be able to understand. See the [http://simple.wikipedia.org simple English Wikipedia] itself for more.

			It had some potential to provide reliable simple briefings that would be a good way to explain what some more important terms mean in the elaborated version of the [[Consumerium buying signal]] that includes "Reasons to buy or not buy"...
			However in its present form the project cannot possibly serve that purpose, as it uses too poor a vocabulary and has no mission to be comprehensible or apply any clear standard or [[defining vocabulary]] discipline. It also refuses to consider or even discuss [[user demographic]] or [[user psychographic]] methods used in real world projects (like the [[user story]] approach) and has even been effectively taken over by a known [[inquisitor]]. Thus it has no role in Consumerium, and has effectively become one of the worst [[enemy projects]] - something that is not a basis for translation, for definition, and is driving off its most experienced contributors for what amount to [[ad hominem]] [[conflicts between users]] which arise solely out of [[witch-hunt]] tactics.

			It is now one of the least [[troll-friendly]] projects and those who are part of its [[sysop power structure]] should in general be [[driven off by trolls]] so they do not also destroy ''this'' project, or any [[essential projects]] at all.

Angela: not anyone

2003-12-19T04:58:52Z

not anyone

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	'''Simple English Wikipedia''' is ~~the main~~ source of [[glossary]] definitions		'''Simple English Wikipedia''' is a source of [[glossary]] definitions that those with a less developed knowledge of English will be able to understand. See the [http://simple.wikipedia.org simple English Wikipedia] itself for more.
	~~anyone can~~ understand. See [http://simple.wikipedia.org ~~SEW~~ itself] for more.

142.177.106.132 at 20:33, 25 October 2003

2003-10-25T20:33:37Z

New page

'''Simple English Wikipedia''' is the main source of [[glossary]] definitions
anyone can understand. See [http://simple.wikipedia.org SEW itself] for more.