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		<title>66.163.19.92 at 04:16, 25 November 2003</title>
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		<updated>2003-11-25T04:16:32Z</updated>

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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l5&quot;&gt;Line 5:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Consortium license]]s tend to have the strongest and most specific restrictions on self-interested forks.  Since they also have a [[Governance Organization]] that is independent, [[self-funding]], and capable of suing, they can actually stomp out self-interested forks, e.g. Java consortium kept Microsoft from calling their libraries &amp;quot;Java&amp;quot; using the license and trademark.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Consortium license]]s tend to have the strongest and most specific restrictions on self-interested forks.  Since they also have a [[Governance Organization]] that is independent, [[self-funding]], and capable of suing, they can actually stomp out self-interested forks, e.g. Java consortium kept Microsoft from calling their libraries &amp;quot;Java&amp;quot; using the license and trademark.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The self-interested fork problem shows up in some [[worst cases]] and more than a few [[threats]].  To write one&#039;s own [[Consumerium buying signal]] will not only be a temptation, in some &quot;businesses&quot;, it will be the only way to survive.  These of course are exactly the businesses we do not want to survive, where &quot;we&quot; admittedly is [[factionally defined]].&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The self-interested fork problem shows up in some [[worst cases]] and more than a few [[threats]].  To write one&#039;s own [[Consumerium buying signal]] will not only be a temptation, in some &quot;businesses&quot;, it will be the only way to survive.  These of course are exactly the businesses we do not want to survive, where &quot;we&quot; admittedly is [[factionally defined]]&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;. [[Guild]]-based [[service model]]s may have trouble defending themselves against self-interested fork&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Faction]]s are themselves an attempt to define and control self-interest in [[Consortium license]] definition.  By creating the [[Consumerium License]] as a [[parametric license]] and providing a [[glossary]] of terms that factions can control for themselves, we hope to make it easier to work within the [[Consumerium Services]] than to duplicate them, but not so much easier that we effectively lose control of the [[centrally controlled information economy]] we need to keep [[authoritative integrity]] ([[validation]]) and [[investigative integrity]] ([[audit]]).  [[Definitive integrity]] is an issue also, but not one of self-interest, and handled differently for each of the [[licensed deliverables]].&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Faction]]s are themselves an attempt to define and control self-interest in [[Consortium license]] definition.  By creating the [[Consumerium License]] as a [[parametric license]] and providing a [[glossary]] of terms that factions can control for themselves, we hope to make it easier to work within the [[Consumerium Services]] than to duplicate them, but not so much easier that we effectively lose control of the [[centrally controlled information economy]] we need to keep [[authoritative integrity]] ([[validation]]) and [[investigative integrity]] ([[audit]]).  [[Definitive integrity]] is an issue also, but not one of self-interest, and handled differently for each of the [[licensed deliverables]].&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>142.177.82.78: linking to allow for exact def&#039;n of self-interested fork, since this has come up in a few places as an issue</title>
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		<updated>2003-11-24T09:27:29Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;linking to allow for exact def&amp;#039;n of &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/Self-interested_fork&quot; title=&quot;Self-interested fork&quot;&gt;self-interested fork&lt;/a&gt;, since this has come up in a few places as an issue&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The &#039;&#039;&#039;self-interested fork problem&#039;&#039;&#039; is a variant of the [[bad copy problem]] where what is &quot;bad&quot; is simply the dilution of [[improvement]]s and the loss of a [[standard]].  The fork/copy itself may be quite good, even better than the original.  However, anyone self-interested enough to fork it may also be self-interested enough to seek independent [[copyright]] or [[patent]] or even some [[trademark]] which prevent the original group from pursuing the same paths of development.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The &#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[&lt;/ins&gt;self-interested fork&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;]] &lt;/ins&gt;problem&#039;&#039;&#039; is a variant of the [[bad copy problem]] where what is &quot;bad&quot; is simply the dilution of [[improvement]]s and the loss of a [[standard]].  The fork/copy itself may be quite good, even better than the original.  However, anyone self-interested enough to fork it may also be self-interested enough to seek independent [[copyright]] or [[patent]] or even some [[trademark]] which prevent the original group from pursuing the same paths of development.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Free software]] actively tries to prevent self-interested forks, by [[required reintegration]] - often this is called a [[viral license]].  [[Open source]] was created by people who wanted self-interested forks to occur and also did not see the [[bad copy problem]] as an issue at all.   &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Free software]] actively tries to prevent self-interested forks, by [[required reintegration]] - often this is called a [[viral license]].  [[Open source]] was created by people who wanted self-interested forks to occur and also did not see the [[bad copy problem]] as an issue at all.   &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>142.177.82.78 at 08:24, 24 November 2003</title>
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		<updated>2003-11-24T08:24:53Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;The &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;self-interested fork problem&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is a variant of the [[bad copy problem]] where what is &amp;quot;bad&amp;quot; is simply the dilution of [[improvement]]s and the loss of a [[standard]].  The fork/copy itself may be quite good, even better than the original.  However, anyone self-interested enough to fork it may also be self-interested enough to seek independent [[copyright]] or [[patent]] or even some [[trademark]] which prevent the original group from pursuing the same paths of development.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Free software]] actively tries to prevent self-interested forks, by [[required reintegration]] - often this is called a [[viral license]].  [[Open source]] was created by people who wanted self-interested forks to occur and also did not see the [[bad copy problem]] as an issue at all.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Consortium license]]s tend to have the strongest and most specific restrictions on self-interested forks.  Since they also have a [[Governance Organization]] that is independent, [[self-funding]], and capable of suing, they can actually stomp out self-interested forks, e.g. Java consortium kept Microsoft from calling their libraries &amp;quot;Java&amp;quot; using the license and trademark.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The self-interested fork problem shows up in some [[worst cases]] and more than a few [[threats]].  To write one&amp;#039;s own [[Consumerium buying signal]] will not only be a temptation, in some &amp;quot;businesses&amp;quot;, it will be the only way to survive.  These of course are exactly the businesses we do not want to survive, where &amp;quot;we&amp;quot; admittedly is [[factionally defined]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Faction]]s are themselves an attempt to define and control self-interest in [[Consortium license]] definition.  By creating the [[Consumerium License]] as a [[parametric license]] and providing a [[glossary]] of terms that factions can control for themselves, we hope to make it easier to work within the [[Consumerium Services]] than to duplicate them, but not so much easier that we effectively lose control of the [[centrally controlled information economy]] we need to keep [[authoritative integrity]] ([[validation]]) and [[investigative integrity]] ([[audit]]).  [[Definitive integrity]] is an issue also, but not one of self-interest, and handled differently for each of the [[licensed deliverables]].&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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