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		<title>142.177.108.21: what a &quot;martinet&quot; is, according to the dictionary</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;what a &amp;quot;martinet&amp;quot; is, according to the dictionary&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 22:13, 4 June 2004&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;A &lt;/del&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Rise of [[Martinet]]s&#039;&#039;&#039; is the phenomena of visible figures using [[etiquette]] as an excuse to trump [[ethics]].  Pettiness and small points of order are permitted to justify [[duckspeak]]ing and mask deep [[groupthink]], e.g. a comment containing facts and pointing out lies or misleading statements is deleted due to a claim that it is somehow &quot;rude&quot;.  Vital information fails to reach responsible community leaders.  Etiquette itself loses its ethical ground.  Shallow [[self-claim]]s overcome and swamp deep ones.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;martinet&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;n.&#039;&#039; 1. a rigid military discipline;  2. one who demands absolute adherence to forms and rules. &#039;&#039;More specific synonyms include:&#039;&#039; absolutist, oligarch, oppressor, [[tycoon]], [[tyrant]], [[usurper]].  &#039;&#039;All of these may be considered variants of the martinet.&#039;&#039;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Rise of [[Martinet]]s&#039;&#039;&#039; is &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;a [[wiki management]] failure:  &lt;/ins&gt;the phenomena of visible figures using [[etiquette]] as an excuse to trump [[ethics]].  Pettiness and small points of order are permitted to justify [[duckspeak]]ing and mask deep [[groupthink]], e.g. a comment containing facts and pointing out lies or misleading statements is deleted due to a claim that it is somehow &quot;rude&quot;.  Vital information fails to reach responsible community leaders.  Etiquette itself loses its ethical ground.  Shallow [[self-claim]]s overcome and swamp deep ones.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Usually a consequence of a [[decline of civility]] that permits the Martinets to rise and make themselves, often, a de facto [[police force]].  If the Martinets achieve formal power, i.e. to [[IP ban]] or censor talk pages in a [[wiki]], this will usually accelerate the decline. Speeding the evolution of such services (they are not communities) implies making Martinets subject to some kind of [[due process]] wherein they do not get to decide the rules of evidence nor the standard of proof or who bears the burden of proof.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Usually a consequence of a [[decline of civility]] that permits the Martinets to rise and make themselves, often, a de facto [[police force]].  If the Martinets achieve formal power, i.e. to [[IP ban]] or censor talk pages in a [[wiki]], this will usually accelerate the decline. Speeding the evolution of such services (they are not communities) implies making Martinets subject to some kind of [[due process]] wherein they do not get to decide the rules of evidence nor the standard of proof or who bears the burden of proof.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Martinets are a different class from the little [[tin god sysop]]s who just confuse [[ontological distinction|ontological]] and [[operational distinction]]s.  They are not the [[GodKing]]s who believe that there is no alternative to just trusting their judgement.  Martinets honestly believe they are applying the etiquette legitimately!  They often convince others of that, it&amp;#039;s even a preoccupation.  But if you look at the details, they are liars, blamer, and inventors of evidence, and concealers of evidence, and make mountains out of molehills linguistically, and none of this is characteristic of a little tin god sysop, or a GodKing.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Martinets are a different class from the little [[tin god sysop]]s who just confuse [[ontological distinction|ontological]] and [[operational distinction]]s.  They are not the [[GodKing]]s who believe that there is no alternative to just trusting their judgement.  Martinets honestly believe they are applying the etiquette legitimately!  They often convince others of that, it&amp;#039;s even a preoccupation.  But if you look at the details, they are liars, blamer, and inventors of evidence, and concealers of evidence, and make mountains out of molehills linguistically, and none of this is characteristic of a little tin god sysop, or a GodKing.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>Virtual community at 18:16, 22 May 2004</title>
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		<updated>2004-05-22T18:16:10Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;A &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Rise of [[Martinet]]s&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is the phenomena of visible figures using [[etiquette]] as an excuse to trump [[ethics]].  Pettiness and small points of order are permitted to justify [[duckspeak]]ing and mask deep [[groupthink]], e.g. a comment containing facts and pointing out lies or misleading statements is deleted due to a claim that it is somehow &amp;quot;rude&amp;quot;.  Vital information fails to reach responsible community leaders.  Etiquette itself loses its ethical ground.  Shallow [[self-claim]]s overcome and swamp deep ones.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;A &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Rise of [[Martinet]]s&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is the phenomena of visible figures using [[etiquette]] as an excuse to trump [[ethics]].  Pettiness and small points of order are permitted to justify [[duckspeak]]ing and mask deep [[groupthink]], e.g. a comment containing facts and pointing out lies or misleading statements is deleted due to a claim that it is somehow &amp;quot;rude&amp;quot;.  Vital information fails to reach responsible community leaders.  Etiquette itself loses its ethical ground.  Shallow [[self-claim]]s overcome and swamp deep ones.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Usually a consequence of a [[decline of civility]] that permits the Martinets to rise and make themselves, often, a de facto [[police force]].  If the Martinets achieve formal power, i.e. to IP ban or censor talk pages in a wiki, this will usually accelerate the decline. Speeding the evolution of such services (they are not communities) implies making Martinets subject to some kind of [[due process]] wherein they do not get to decide the rules of evidence nor the standard of proof or who bears the burden of proof.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Usually a consequence of a [[decline of civility]] that permits the Martinets to rise and make themselves, often, a de facto [[police force]].  If the Martinets achieve formal power, i.e. to &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[&lt;/ins&gt;IP ban&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;]] &lt;/ins&gt;or censor talk pages in a &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[&lt;/ins&gt;wiki&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;]]&lt;/ins&gt;, this will usually accelerate the decline. Speeding the evolution of such services (they are not communities) implies making Martinets subject to some kind of [[due process]] wherein they do not get to decide the rules of evidence nor the standard of proof or who bears the burden of proof.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Martinets are a different class from the little [[tin god sysop]]s who just confuse [[ontological distinction|ontological]] and [[operational distinction]]s.  They are not the [[GodKing]]s who believe that there is no alternative to just trusting their judgement.  Martinets honestly believe they are applying the etiquette legitimately!  They often convince others of that, it&amp;#039;s even a preoccupation.  But if you look at the details, they are liars, blamer, and inventors of evidence, and concealers of evidence, and make mountains out of molehills linguistically, and none of this is characteristic of a little tin god sysop, or a GodKing.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Martinets are a different class from the little [[tin god sysop]]s who just confuse [[ontological distinction|ontological]] and [[operational distinction]]s.  They are not the [[GodKing]]s who believe that there is no alternative to just trusting their judgement.  Martinets honestly believe they are applying the etiquette legitimately!  They often convince others of that, it&amp;#039;s even a preoccupation.  But if you look at the details, they are liars, blamer, and inventors of evidence, and concealers of evidence, and make mountains out of molehills linguistically, and none of this is characteristic of a little tin god sysop, or a GodKing.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>Virtual community at 21:59, 21 May 2004</title>
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		<updated>2004-05-21T21:59:20Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;A &#039;&#039;&#039;Rise of [[Martinet]]s&#039;&#039;&#039; is the phenomena of visible figures using [[etiquette]] as an excuse to trump [[ethics]].  Pettiness and small points of order are permitted to justify [[&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;duckspeaking&lt;/del&gt;]] and mask deep [[groupthink]], e.g. a comment containing facts and pointing out lies or misleading statements is deleted due to a claim that it is somehow &quot;rude&quot;.  Vital information fails to reach responsible community leaders.  Etiquette itself loses its ethical ground.  Shallow [[self-claim]]s overcome and swamp deep ones.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;A &#039;&#039;&#039;Rise of [[Martinet]]s&#039;&#039;&#039; is the phenomena of visible figures using [[etiquette]] as an excuse to trump [[ethics]].  Pettiness and small points of order are permitted to justify [[&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;duckspeak&lt;/ins&gt;]]&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;ing &lt;/ins&gt;and mask deep [[groupthink]], e.g. a comment containing facts and pointing out lies or misleading statements is deleted due to a claim that it is somehow &quot;rude&quot;.  Vital information fails to reach responsible community leaders.  Etiquette itself loses its ethical ground.  Shallow [[self-claim]]s overcome and swamp deep ones.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Usually a consequence of a [[decline of civility]] that permits the Martinets to rise and make themselves, often, a de facto [[police force]].  If the Martinets achieve formal power, i.e. to IP ban or censor talk pages in a wiki, this will usually accelerate the decline. Speeding the evolution of such services (they are not communities) implies making Martinets subject to some kind of [[due process]] wherein they do not get to decide the rules of evidence nor the standard of proof or who bears the burden of proof.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Usually a consequence of a [[decline of civility]] that permits the Martinets to rise and make themselves, often, a de facto [[police force]].  If the Martinets achieve formal power, i.e. to IP ban or censor talk pages in a wiki, this will usually accelerate the decline. Speeding the evolution of such services (they are not communities) implies making Martinets subject to some kind of [[due process]] wherein they do not get to decide the rules of evidence nor the standard of proof or who bears the burden of proof.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Martinets are a different class from the little [[tin god sysop]]s who just confuse [[ontological distinction|ontological]] and [[operational distinction]]s.  They are not the [[GodKing]]s who believe that there is no alternative to just trusting their judgement.  Martinets honestly believe they are applying the etiquette legitimately!  They often convince others of that, it&amp;#039;s even a preoccupation.  But if you look at the details, they are liars, blamer, and inventors of evidence, and concealers of evidence, and make mountains out of molehills linguistically, and none of this is characteristic of a little tin god sysop, or a GodKing.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Martinets are a different class from the little [[tin god sysop]]s who just confuse [[ontological distinction|ontological]] and [[operational distinction]]s.  They are not the [[GodKing]]s who believe that there is no alternative to just trusting their judgement.  Martinets honestly believe they are applying the etiquette legitimately!  They often convince others of that, it&amp;#039;s even a preoccupation.  But if you look at the details, they are liars, blamer, and inventors of evidence, and concealers of evidence, and make mountains out of molehills linguistically, and none of this is characteristic of a little tin god sysop, or a GodKing.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>Virtual community at 21:38, 21 May 2004</title>
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		<updated>2004-05-21T21:38:24Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Usually a consequence of a [[decline of civility]] that permits the Martinets to rise and make themselves, often, a de facto [[police force]].  If the Martinets achieve formal power, i.e. to IP ban or censor talk pages in a wiki, this will usually accelerate the decline. Speeding the evolution of such services (they are not communities) implies making Martinets subject to some kind of [[due process]] wherein they do not get to decide the rules of evidence nor the standard of proof or who bears the burden of proof.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Usually a consequence of a [[decline of civility]] that permits the Martinets to rise and make themselves, often, a de facto [[police force]].  If the Martinets achieve formal power, i.e. to IP ban or censor talk pages in a wiki, this will usually accelerate the decline. Speeding the evolution of such services (they are not communities) implies making Martinets subject to some kind of [[due process]] wherein they do not get to decide the rules of evidence nor the standard of proof or who bears the burden of proof.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Martinets are a different class from the little [[tin god sysop]]s who just confuse [[ontological distinction|ontological]] and [[operational distinction]]s.  They are not the [[GodKing]]s who believe that there is no alternative to just trusting their judgement.  Martinets honestly believe they are applying the etiquette legitimately!  They often convince others of that, it&#039;s even a preoccupation.  But if you look at the details, they are liars, blamer, and inventors of evidence, and concealers of evidence, and make mountains out of molehills linguistically, and none of this is characteristic of a little tin god sysop, or a GodKing.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>Virtual community at 21:35, 21 May 2004</title>
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		<updated>2004-05-21T21:35:36Z</updated>

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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;A &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Rise of [[Martinet]]s&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is the phenomena of visible figures using [[etiquette]] as an excuse to trump [[ethics]].  Pettiness and small points of order are permitted to justify [[duckspeaking]] and mask deep [[groupthink]], e.g. a comment containing facts and pointing out lies or misleading statements is deleted due to a claim that it is somehow &amp;quot;rude&amp;quot;.  Vital information fails to reach responsible community leaders.  Etiquette itself loses its ethical ground.  Shallow [[self-claim]]s overcome and swamp deep ones.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;A &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Rise of [[Martinet]]s&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is the phenomena of visible figures using [[etiquette]] as an excuse to trump [[ethics]].  Pettiness and small points of order are permitted to justify [[duckspeaking]] and mask deep [[groupthink]], e.g. a comment containing facts and pointing out lies or misleading statements is deleted due to a claim that it is somehow &amp;quot;rude&amp;quot;.  Vital information fails to reach responsible community leaders.  Etiquette itself loses its ethical ground.  Shallow [[self-claim]]s overcome and swamp deep ones.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Usually a consequence of a [[decline of civility]] that permits the Martinets to rise and make themselves, often, a de facto [[police force]].  If the Martinets achieve formal power, i.e. to IP ban or censor talk pages in a wiki, this will usually accelerate the decline.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Usually a consequence of a [[decline of civility]] that permits the Martinets to rise and make themselves, often, a de facto [[police force]].  If the Martinets achieve formal power, i.e. to IP ban or censor talk pages in a wiki, this will usually accelerate the decline&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;. Speeding the evolution of such services (they are not communities) implies making Martinets subject to some kind of [[due process]] wherein they do not get to decide the rules of evidence nor the standard of proof or who bears the burden of proof&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>Virtual community at 21:28, 21 May 2004</title>
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		<updated>2004-05-21T21:28:02Z</updated>

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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;A &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Rise of [[Martinet]]s&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is the phenomena of visible figures using [[etiquette]] as an excuse to trump [[ethics]].  Pettiness and small points of order are permitted to justify [[duckspeaking]] and mask deep [[groupthink]], e.g. a comment containing facts and pointing out lies or misleading statements is deleted due to a claim that it is somehow &amp;quot;rude&amp;quot;.  Vital information fails to reach responsible community leaders.  Etiquette itself loses its ethical ground.  Shallow [[self-claim]]s overcome and swamp deep ones.&lt;br /&gt;
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Usually a consequence of a [[decline of civility]] that permits the Martinets to rise and make themselves, often, a de facto [[police force]].  If the Martinets achieve formal power, i.e. to IP ban or censor talk pages in a wiki, this will usually accelerate the decline.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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