Political spectrum - Revision history

142.177.81.73: full explanation of its relevance

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full explanation of its relevance

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	The '''political spectrum''' is only reasonably described objectively using the colours that various [[faction]]s have chosen or would recognize to describe their concerns and [[common values]]:		The '''political spectrum''' is only reasonably described objectively using the colours that various [[faction]]s have chosen or would recognize to describe their concerns and [[common values]]. We invite them to write very detailed summaries of their own beliefs, and try only to summarize them here as:

	[[Greens]] are the most politically organized, into [[Green Parties]] sharing the [[six principles]] and [[fair trade]]		*[[Greens]] are the most politically organized, into [[Green Parties]] sharing the [[six principles]] and [[fair trade]]
			*[[Blues]] are the most powerful, and this catch-all term describes those who find [[globalization]] in its present form acceptable.
			*[[Reds]] are a quite old faction that want [[fair trade]] or no trade at all.
			*[[Pinks]] are defined more by identity than [[ideology]] and often want to end [[discrimination]] and achieve more humane less competitive social conditions.

	[[~~Blues~~]] ~~are~~ the ~~most powerful, and this catch-all term describes those who find [[globalization]] in its present form acceptable~~.		There are others but they are unlikely to take anywhere near as much interest in [[Consumerium Services]] as any of the above.

	[[~~Reds~~]] ~~are~~ a ~~quite old faction~~ that ~~want~~ [[~~fair trade~~]] ~~or no trade at all~~.		The main ways in which this matters are the forming of [[tendency]] and [[faction]]s in the [[Consumerium Governance Organization]], the different [[refactoring]] priorities they apply in the [[content wiki]] and even in the [[R&D wiki]] ([[Pinks]] for instance hate factionalism and stereotypes and so try to deny they exist, which in many cases is just a sheer power grab to let them quietly define all terms themselves). Recognizing the factions up front that exist in the real world helps identify where each political attitude can help [[Consumerium Services]] as a whole. As a rough stereotype guide imagine:

	[[Pinks]] ~~are defined more by identity than~~ [[~~ideology~~]] and ~~often want to end~~ [[~~discrimination~~]] and ~~achieve~~ more ~~humane less competitive social conditions~~.		For instance, Blues could ideally help with the [[self-funding]] and [[prediction market]] and other [[betting]] aspects, and perhaps interface to [[corporate purchasing]]. Pinks on the other hand would be better directed to [[fair trade]] problems and projects to get rid of [[slavery]] and [[child labour]]. [[Reds]] would waste everyone's time on the funding side and would inject useless rhetoric into the campaigns, but in general they would be great [[Consumerium researchers]], translators, etc.[[Greens]] seem to be more scientific and disciplined than any of these others and have a doctrine that actually evolved after 1960 when many things about the real world were known that were not known when other [[ideology]] originated.

	~~There are others but~~ they ~~are unlikely~~ to ~~take anywhere near as much interest~~ in [[~~Consumerium Services~~]] ~~as any of the above~~.		This kind of division will help divide the [[Consumerium social club]] up into [[creative network]]s that can each do great work separately that they could not do by trying to co-operate in areas where they have values that just clash.

			It takes all kinds, to make a world, and to make [[moral purchasing power]] too.

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 The '''political spectrum''' is only reasonably described objectively using the colours that various [[faction]]s have chosen or would recognize to describe their concerns and [[common values]]:
-==Reds==
+[[Greens]] are the most politically organized, into [[Green Parties]] sharing the [[six principles]] and [[fair trade]]
-Accordingly, there will likely be a [[faction]] of Reds in the [[Consumerium social club]] and they very likely will insist on some [[factionally defined]] terms and [[standard label]]s for products produced by [[fair trade]] criteria.
+[[Blues]] are the most powerful, and this catch-all term describes those who find [[globalization]] in its present form acceptable.
-They will probably ''not'' want their own [[Consortium license]] because of their ideological objections to [[patent]] and [[copyright]] law in general.  They may advocate the [[Consumerium License]] just becoming the [[GPL]], or having no license at all as some kind of protest.  When asked how specific [[bad copy problem]]s or [[self-interested fork problem]]s will be dealt with, and how [[worst cases]] and [[threats]] related to these will be averted, their answer will always be "these are all symptoms of capitalism - they will not go away until capitalism is smashed - so if these happen then just smash capitalism" etc. etc. rant rave.
+[[Reds]] are a quite old faction that want [[fair trade]] or no trade at all.
-They will also likely be quite active in the [[content wiki]] - Communists are great reporters of facts, since they suspect everyone and everything with any connection to capitalism, and will always find "a fly in the ointment".  For this very reason, however, their analysis tends not to be as strong or objective as that of [[Greens]], and, they tend to be pretty damn boring too.
+[[Pinks]] are defined more by identity than [[ideology]] and often want to end [[discrimination]] and achieve more humane less competitive social conditions.
-Don't let them do your marketing either.  They hate marketing, maybe because they're so bad at it.
+There are others but they are unlikely to take anywhere near as much interest in [[Consumerium Services]] as any of the above.

142.177.81.73: archiving whole article

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The '''political spectrum''' is only reasonably described objectively using the colours that various [[faction]]s have chosen or would recognize to describe their concerns and [[common values]]:

==Reds==
'''Reds''' refer to anti-capitalists, specifically communists, who adopted this as their signal colour long ago. It stands for the blood shed by workers in the wage slavery system, and by soldiers in the wars started by capitalists for their own profit (yeah ok don't blame me I'm just the [[troll]]). They tend to really dislike workplace practices that exploit people like [[prison labour]] or [[child labour]] or [[slavery]], although they see these as part of capitalism. They often focus on specific individual media barons or corporate figures as 'the worst problem' at any point in time, and distrust even [[Greens]] and [[Pinks]] in many cases.

Accordingly, there will likely be a [[faction]] of Reds in the [[Consumerium social club]] and they very likely will insist on some [[factionally defined]] terms and [[standard label]]s for products produced by [[fair trade]] criteria.

They will probably ''not'' want their own [[Consortium license]] because of their ideological objections to [[patent]] and [[copyright]] law in general. They may advocate the [[Consumerium License]] just becoming the [[GPL]], or having no license at all as some kind of protest. When asked how specific [[bad copy problem]]s or [[self-interested fork problem]]s will be dealt with, and how [[worst cases]] and [[threats]] related to these will be averted, their answer will always be "these are all symptoms of capitalism - they will not go away until capitalism is smashed - so if these happen then just smash capitalism" etc. etc. rant rave.

They will also likely be quite active in the [[content wiki]] - Communists are great reporters of facts, since they suspect everyone and everything with any connection to capitalism, and will always find "a fly in the ointment". For this very reason, however, their analysis tends not to be as strong or objective as that of [[Greens]], and, they tend to be pretty damn boring too.

Don't let them do your marketing either. They hate marketing, maybe because they're so bad at it.

They are also good at [[municipal government]]. Many [[European cities]] are run by Reds, and these might be willing to use the [[Consumerium buying signal]] to make actual [[public sector buying decision]]s. That'd be great!
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==Greens==
'''Greens''' hate [[ape genocide]] because it kills and eats creatures so similar to us we should treat them like long-lost relatives, not dinner. They hate [[logging]] in general and not just when it leads to [[deforestation]] - "[[no old growth]]" is a concept they defined. They also dislike [[war]] since it provides excuses to use [[nuclear]] junk, and [[genetically modified food]]. They find [[overconsumption]] and [[overpopulation]] both to be true, whereas most people deny one or the other. Many Greens hate [[human]]s and become [[troll]]s, gnawing on vegan tofu as they type nasty stuff at you here. They think they are protecting their Mother, Earth, from "people like you."

Their misanthropic exterior masks the most rational analysis of Earth's problems. Of all [[faction]]s, Greens have been the most specific and scientific, and thus probably the most successful, at getting their [[factionally defined]] terms into the public mind and into the [[law]] and [[media]]. They are very focused, e.g. on [[safe trade]]. They often form [[Green Parties]] and split the vote even for their friends among the [[Pinks]] and [[Reds]], and they are more willing to work in [[minority government]] than almost any other parties.

[[Greenpeace]] is probably the world's most successful [[nonprofit]] at online organizing. We can learn a lot from them!

The [[glossary]] arose from work towards a [[Green Documentation License]], which may be used in the [[content wiki]], since it will make reference to scientific and other [[validation]], e.g. from [[ecology]]. There may or may not be similar validation requirements in the [[Consumerium License]], but it seems likely.

The [[Consumerium Governance Organization]] will have to decide if the well-organized '''Greens''' should be allowed to write a lot of basic definitions, since [[ecosystem health]] is obviously the most basic survival issue on Earth. or if a more representative group should be able to object. And, how much to intervene when Green trolls bite them on the leg for their objections.
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==Blues==
'''Blues''' are the good old conservative guys in (blue) suits who come over the (blue) sea and drop bombs on you from the (blue) sky with some Empire. Many think [[Pinks]] and [[Greens]] are cute or silly, and [[Reds]] scary.

They see no basic problem with [[capitalism]] and enjoy [[betting]] on both [[sports]] and the [[stock market]], seeing no problem with basing the whole economy on bets. In this they are kind of similar to [[troll]]s but unlike trolls they try to foment a good [[reputation]].

Some Blues advocate [[Natural Capitalism]] however or see basic problems with [[economics]] like the [[Greens]] do. Some Blues also advocate [[ethical investing]] and [[moral purchasing]] as a way to refine "the system" without radical change. Most understand how central an [[audit]] and [[accounting standard]] are to keeping any [[market system]] going.

Many may think there is no need for [[Consumerium Services]] because in their [[ideology]], [[economic choice]] is so separate from [[moral choice]] that a buyer who does not choose the lowest [[price]] is "always cheating himself." In their view, no [[price premium]] for a better [[comprehensive outcome]] is better placed getting that outcome, than saved and spent on one's [[nonprofit]] objectives, by oneself.

There are definitely advantages to the Blues' point of view, after all, they rule the world, and it's not for no reason. It should be completely understood.

[[Natural Capitalism]], the [[Green Patent License]] and [[Consumerium Prediction Market]] are three good examples of working within Blue frameworks to do rather radical things.
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==Pinks==
'''Pinks''' refer to people who define themselves by sexuality: feminists, gays, lesbians, self-defined "queers", and others primarily concerned with social acceptance for everybody. They tend to really dislike gender-based or sexuality-based discrimination and refuse to buy from those who practice it.

There will likely be a [[faction]] of Pinks in the [[Consumerium social club]] and they very likely will insist on some [[factionally defined]] terms or some [[standard label]]s for products produced with no gender or sex discrimination.