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'''Philosophy as usual''' is a parallel to [[politics as usual]] but is more abstract, and the power game is less obvious. Typical tricks of the trade are:

*[[endless regress]] so that any effective argument is met with a more abstract one until the entire argument is [[ungrounded]] and hand-waving and fancy talk will win the day - can only be defeated by a single clear [[standard of evidence]]
*[[side argument]]s introduced without limit to simply dilute the conversation to the point where no [[decision maker]] is listening at all, and is likely not to come back
*accusation of [[faction]] loyalty, or actual faction loyalty, overriding one's commitment to [[due process]] - changing the rules during the actual game with no consensus of all factions to do so
*[[God's Eye View]] of course, which leads inexorably to worship of a [[GodKing]]
*accepting [[philosophy]] itself as a guide to reality, even if [[no body]] actually believes the arguments and commits to test them, i.e. live by them
*discarding as "unimportant" the [[ethics]] that [[some body]] actually lives by as if intent and ideals always over-rode real bodily experiences.

[[Postmodernism]] is a simple rejection of most of the above and an attempt to portrary all philosophy as language games. This is not satisfactory for all problems, e.g [[ontology]] remains at the core of language because all language has agreed [[glossary]], it is hard to avoid the question of what constitutes [[consensus decision making]] or [[peer review]] in [[profession]]s and [[trade]]s, and [[journalist]]s can't operate without [[neutral point of view]] (however useless that may be for actually providing real neutrality of views).

[[Cognitive science]] takes issue with a great many of the problems arising in '''philosophy as usual''', and many stances taken by postmodernists. They avoid the problems of both by focusing on [[some body]] as it operates in some [[environment]], which has rules like [[ecology]] that make it predictable. A lot of problems are avoided by focusing on the [[body-ecology]] feedback system.

[[Consumerium:philosophy]] is more focused on that loop than typical philosopher concerns. That is probably why [[trolls]] like it so much, and festoon their [[world tree]] on holidays with printed pages from [[Consumerium:Itself]].

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