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Jukeboksi: linking voting

2013-08-18T12:05:11Z

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	Most skewing attempts of the voting system and data will be made by paid trolls.. [[Non-paid trolls vs. paid trolls]] is a very likely setting in a [[highly political]] [[wiki]].		Most skewing attempts of the [[voting]] system and data will be made by paid trolls.. [[Non-paid trolls vs. paid trolls]] is a very likely setting in a [[highly political]] [[wiki]].

	A '''paid [[troll]]''' can be of several kinds:		A '''paid [[troll]]''' can be of several kinds:

Jukeboksi: * http://wikiwizards.org/ - Paid trolling organization

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* http://wikiwizards.org/ - Paid trolling organization

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	If there are other types of paid troll identified, there will have to be more strategies identified as well.		If there are other types of paid troll identified, there will have to be more strategies identified as well.

			* http://wikiwizards.org/ - Paid trolling organization

Jukeboksi: Most skewing attempts of the voting system and data will be made by paid trolls.. Non-paid trolls vs. paid trolls is a very likely setting in a highly political wiki.

2012-07-13T08:40:00Z

Most skewing attempts of the voting system and data will be made by paid trolls.. Non-paid trolls vs. paid trolls is a very likely setting in a highly political wiki.

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			Most skewing attempts of the voting system and data will be made by paid trolls.. [[Non-paid trolls vs. paid trolls]] is a very likely setting in a [[highly political]] [[wiki]].

	A '''paid [[troll]]''' can be of several kinds:		A '''paid [[troll]]''' can be of several kinds:
			* Editing and [[voting]] in favour of their interest group's ( groups' ? )
	*anyone doing [[Consumerium maintenance]] who is especially grumpy or picky		*anyone doing [[Consumerium maintenance]] who is especially grumpy or picky
	*a [[consultant]] deliberately hired by the [[Consumerium Governance Organization]] to bust up some [[groupthink]] or address some [[privacy]] concern without the acual [[Consumerium Board]] having to get involved,		*a [[consultant]] deliberately hired by the [[Consumerium Governance Organization]] to bust up some [[groupthink]] or address some [[privacy]] concern without the acual [[Consumerium Board]] having to get involved,

142.177.103.109: an aspect of both best cases and worst cases depending on who pays 'em

2003-11-26T20:42:38Z

an aspect of both best cases and worst cases depending on who pays 'em

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A '''paid [[troll]]''' can be of several kinds:
*anyone doing [[Consumerium maintenance]] who is especially grumpy or picky
*a [[consultant]] deliberately hired by the [[Consumerium Governance Organization]] to bust up some [[groupthink]] or address some [[privacy]] concern without the acual [[Consumerium Board]] having to get involved,
*someone spreading a form of [[advertising]] like [[greenwash]] in the [[Content wiki]],
*someone paid by a [[political party]] or [[nonprofit]] group to spread some [[ideology]],
*a person with enough [[financial capital]] to consider trolling to be a great way to spend their own [[free time]]

Staying [[troll-friendly]] implies knowing the difference and finding ways to steer these various types of trolls properly. For instance, regardless of any [[reputation]], if you see someone busting up [[groupthink]], wade in to help them - this will save the [[CGO]] [[cashflow]] and let the troll they are paying move on to another problem. It really doesn't matter if they are paid or not in this case, and it doesn't matter who thinks they are a troll. It's up to everyone to identify [[threats]], [[worst cases]], etc., and since no one really likes to talk about these things much, it's often up to trolls to do so.

If you think on the other hand someone is promulgating '''false positive''' data on a company or [[types of companies]] or a whole industry that is in general going to make [[individual buying criteria]] harder to apply correctly, that too is everyone's problem. Rather than accuse anyone of doing this, add a few [[worst cases]] that pointedly identify the [[comprehensive outcome]]s of an industry allowed to pay trolls to disrupt [[Consumerium buying signal]]s and effectively "buy" a more favourable impression for itself. Meanwhile to [[best cases]] add a nice revenge measure, like "any corporation that distorts data on the [[content wiki]] gets its [[brand name]]s [[score]]d down one full point. Eventually, corporations themselves compete to dig up dirt on each other, and blame that on each other, too, and [[Consumerium researchers]] need not waste their own time." That ethical obligation to declare our intention satisfied, it is quite reasonable to let the short-sighted go ahead and do our work for us.

The [[political spectrum]] being what it is, it's hard to have any one strategy for dealing with those who are paid by people they have [[common values]] with. It is especially hard to deal with those who are paid by themselves! A strategy that seems to work better than most is to let a [[faction]] form for any significant tendency that matches real [[political choice]] in the real world, so that other people who share that tendency can start to gently correct any truly idiosyncratic views, and start to create informal [[reputation]]s that the paid troll is more likely to respect. For instance if there are [[Greens]] doing this fanatically themselves and this is creating some form of disruption, steering them into a tribe-like group that includes people from some real [[Green Parties]] or [[Greenpeace]] will make it more likely that they will eventually become [[tame troll]]s, and work on priorities that they can gain [[social capital]] with their group by working on. That way there is no need for the [[Consumerium Governance Organization]] to intervene nor to take any political stance. This is obviously ideal, and discourages the very enthusiastic contributors less.

If there are other types of paid troll identified, there will have to be more strategies identified as well.