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		<title>Jukeboksi: delink, de-trollify, attempt to improve defintions</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;delink, de-trollify, attempt to improve defintions&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l5&quot;&gt;Line 5:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;In Western theology, the less arrogant assertion is made that God makes states of being that humans must live with and work through:  life and the afterlife.  Other theologies such as [[w:Buddhism]] likewise make claims based on [[ontological distinction]]s that they claim are necessary to comprehend and accept the claims.  Any imposition of such distinctions is itself [[w:persuasion technology|persuasive]] and seductive.  The essence of an &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;ontological&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; approach to education is to change the [[glossary]] in which people discuss problems, as opposed to the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;teleological&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; approach which requires that they adopt a particular style of reasoning and argument.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;In Western theology, the less arrogant assertion is made that God makes states of being that humans must live with and work through:  life and the afterlife.  Other theologies such as [[w:Buddhism]] likewise make claims based on [[ontological distinction]]s that they claim are necessary to comprehend and accept the claims.  Any imposition of such distinctions is itself [[w:persuasion technology|persuasive]] and seductive.  The essence of an &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;ontological&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; approach to education is to change the [[glossary]] in which people discuss problems, as opposed to the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;teleological&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; approach which requires that they adopt a particular style of reasoning and argument.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;A compromise view from [[w:General Semantics]] as expressed in [[w:E Prime]] holds that &quot;is&quot; has no meaning at all, and being must be characterized more exactly as &quot;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[&lt;/del&gt;becomes&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;]]&lt;/del&gt;, &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[&lt;/del&gt;remains&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;]]&lt;/del&gt;, or &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[equal]]s&lt;/del&gt;&quot;.  The verb &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[&lt;/del&gt;to be&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;]] &lt;/del&gt;is disallowed - it is not part of the language.  Becomes clearly refers to what is true in the future, remains to what is true in the past, and equals to what is true only in the snapshot moment - and only this last is subject to mathematic proof or verification of any formal sort at all.  This is the advised way for [[Consumerium Services]] to proceed - the [[glossary]] should be based on this.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;A compromise view from [[w:General Semantics]] as expressed in [[w:E Prime]] holds that &quot;is&quot; has no meaning at all, and being must be characterized more exactly as &quot;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;/ins&gt;becomes, remains&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;/ins&gt;, or &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;equals&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;/ins&gt;&quot;.  The verb &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;/ins&gt;to be&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;/ins&gt;is disallowed - it is not part of the language.  Becomes clearly refers to what is true in the future, remains to what is true in the past, and equals to what is true only in the snapshot moment - and only this last is subject to mathematic proof or verification of any formal sort at all.  This is the advised way for [[Consumerium Services]] to proceed - the [[glossary]] should be based on this.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Sysop]]s by contrast attempt to employ their own bastard ontology, &quot;[[sysopism]]&quot;, in which they too have God&#039;s Eye View (actually [[Sysop Vandal point of view]]) from which they can discern (magically) the [[alleged and collective identity|identity]] and intentions of persecuted people they label (derisively) &quot;[[trolls]]&quot;.  Their [[amateur psychiatry]] often includes categories defined in the [[w:DSM-IV-TR]] or other textbooks relying on the &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Western vanity&lt;/del&gt;.  Because sysops themselves &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;are stupid and/or evil&lt;/del&gt;, this is not an honest attempt to actually &quot;help&quot; the people so classified, but an excuse to do harm to them.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Sysop]]s by contrast attempt to employ their own bastard ontology, &quot;[[sysopism]]&quot;, in which they too have God&#039;s Eye View (actually [[Sysop Vandal point of view]]) from which they can discern (magically) the [[alleged and collective identity|identity]] and intentions of persecuted people they label (derisively) &quot;[[trolls]]&quot;.  Their [[amateur psychiatry]] often includes categories defined in the [[w:DSM-IV-TR]] or other textbooks relying on the &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;western scientific tradition of preferring &#039;&#039;&#039;strict methodology&#039;&#039;&#039; to &#039;&#039;&#039;a holistic approach&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;/ins&gt;.  Because sysops themselves &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;have a world view promoting power structures as almost sole means of governance&lt;/ins&gt;, this is not an honest attempt to actually &quot;help&quot; the people so classified, but an excuse to do harm to them.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;To fight back, actual [[trolls]] self-identify or assert a [[factionally defined]] ontology.  This provides a basis for argument that transcends mere [[sysop vandalism]] as its defining rationale - and creates more of a [[representative democracy]] or [[deliberative democracy]], to more correctly organize [[moral cognition]] of a wider variety of being - and beings.  Including those, like trolls, which aren&amp;#039;t human, but deserve great respect.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;To fight back, actual [[trolls]] self-identify or assert a [[factionally defined]] ontology.  This provides a basis for argument that transcends mere [[sysop vandalism]] as its defining rationale - and creates more of a [[representative democracy]] or [[deliberative democracy]], to more correctly organize [[moral cognition]] of a wider variety of being - and beings.  Including those, like trolls, which aren&amp;#039;t human, but deserve great respect.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The [[trollist]] political and cognitive ontology seems to centre around the [[world tree]] and the process of [[trollgnaw|gnawing]], which trolls do &amp;#039;&amp;#039;instead&amp;#039;&amp;#039; of &amp;quot;thinking&amp;quot;.  By avoiding thought and focusing on [[unthought]] (after [[w:Heidegger]]) trolls seek to avoid various [[subject-object problem]]s by making themselves always the object of any process.  The [[trolletariat]] is the political expression of this [[class conciousness]]:  as the trolls perceive themselves as an oppressed group, they naturally form categories useful to resist forms of oppression, some of which are in common with other oppressed groups like [[ape]]s or [[indigenous people]]s.  Then all can form a common front against [[sysopism]] as merely one aspect of [[militarism]], [[imperialism]], etc..&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The [[trollist]] political and cognitive ontology seems to centre around the [[world tree]] and the process of [[trollgnaw|gnawing]], which trolls do &amp;#039;&amp;#039;instead&amp;#039;&amp;#039; of &amp;quot;thinking&amp;quot;.  By avoiding thought and focusing on [[unthought]] (after [[w:Heidegger]]) trolls seek to avoid various [[subject-object problem]]s by making themselves always the object of any process.  The [[trolletariat]] is the political expression of this [[class conciousness]]:  as the trolls perceive themselves as an oppressed group, they naturally form categories useful to resist forms of oppression, some of which are in common with other oppressed groups like [[ape]]s or [[indigenous people]]s.  Then all can form a common front against [[sysopism]] as merely one aspect of [[militarism]], [[imperialism]], etc..&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>Jukeboksi: rm ontology being a subset of metaphysics</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;rm ontology being a subset of metaphysics&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;An &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;ontology&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is a statement of &amp;quot;what is&amp;quot;, a categorization of states or types of &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;being&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;.   &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;An &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;ontology&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is a statement of &amp;quot;what is&amp;quot;, a categorization of states or types of &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;being&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;.   &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;In Western philosophy, which arrogantly asserts that people trained in it can actually discern types of being or &quot;what is&quot; reliably&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;, [[w:ontology]] is considered to be merely a branch of [[w:metaphysics]]&lt;/del&gt;.  This is however stupid, and the people who believe this are vain and arrogant fools:  they do not have the [[God&#039;s Eye View]] required to make such statements other than as their own opinion, and these opinions are arbitrary, unverifiable, and unshared with people outside their own academic discipline.  A philosopher is merely a waste of skin.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;In Western philosophy, which arrogantly asserts that people trained in it can actually discern types of being or &quot;what is&quot; reliably.  This is however stupid, and the people who believe this are vain and arrogant fools:  they do not have the [[God&#039;s Eye View]] required to make such statements other than as their own opinion, and these opinions are arbitrary, unverifiable, and unshared with people outside their own academic discipline.  A philosopher is merely a waste of skin.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;In Western theology, the less arrogant assertion is made that God makes states of being that humans must live with and work through:  life and the afterlife.  Other theologies such as [[w:Buddhism]] likewise make claims based on [[ontological distinction]]s that they claim are necessary to comprehend and accept the claims.  Any imposition of such distinctions is itself [[w:persuasion technology|persuasive]] and seductive.  The essence of an &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;ontological&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; approach to education is to change the [[glossary]] in which people discuss problems, as opposed to the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;teleological&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; approach which requires that they adopt a particular style of reasoning and argument.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;In Western theology, the less arrogant assertion is made that God makes states of being that humans must live with and work through:  life and the afterlife.  Other theologies such as [[w:Buddhism]] likewise make claims based on [[ontological distinction]]s that they claim are necessary to comprehend and accept the claims.  Any imposition of such distinctions is itself [[w:persuasion technology|persuasive]] and seductive.  The essence of an &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;ontological&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; approach to education is to change the [[glossary]] in which people discuss problems, as opposed to the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;teleological&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; approach which requires that they adopt a particular style of reasoning and argument.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<id>https://develop.consumerium.org/w/index.php?title=Ontology&amp;diff=4427&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Jukeboksi: fixing link to non-existent wikipedia article, leaving the article otherwise in it&#039;s ultratrolled state</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;fixing link to non-existent wikipedia article, leaving the article otherwise in it&amp;#039;s ultratrolled state&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l7&quot;&gt;Line 7:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;A compromise view from [[w:General Semantics]] as expressed in [[w:E Prime]] holds that &amp;quot;is&amp;quot; has no meaning at all, and being must be characterized more exactly as &amp;quot;[[becomes]], [[remains]], or [[equal]]s&amp;quot;.  The verb [[to be]] is disallowed - it is not part of the language.  Becomes clearly refers to what is true in the future, remains to what is true in the past, and equals to what is true only in the snapshot moment - and only this last is subject to mathematic proof or verification of any formal sort at all.  This is the advised way for [[Consumerium Services]] to proceed - the [[glossary]] should be based on this.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;A compromise view from [[w:General Semantics]] as expressed in [[w:E Prime]] holds that &amp;quot;is&amp;quot; has no meaning at all, and being must be characterized more exactly as &amp;quot;[[becomes]], [[remains]], or [[equal]]s&amp;quot;.  The verb [[to be]] is disallowed - it is not part of the language.  Becomes clearly refers to what is true in the future, remains to what is true in the past, and equals to what is true only in the snapshot moment - and only this last is subject to mathematic proof or verification of any formal sort at all.  This is the advised way for [[Consumerium Services]] to proceed - the [[glossary]] should be based on this.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Sysop]]s by contrast attempt to employ their own bastard ontology, &quot;[[sysopism]]&quot;, in which they too have God&#039;s Eye View (actually [[Sysop Vandal point of view]]) from which they can discern (magically) the [[alleged and collective identity|identity]] and intentions of persecuted people they label (derisively) &quot;[[trolls]]&quot;.  Their [[amateur psychiatry]] often includes categories defined in the [[w:DSM IV]] or other textbooks relying on the Western vanity.  Because sysops themselves are stupid and/or evil, this is not an honest attempt to actually &quot;help&quot; the people so classified, but an excuse to do harm to them.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Sysop]]s by contrast attempt to employ their own bastard ontology, &quot;[[sysopism]]&quot;, in which they too have God&#039;s Eye View (actually [[Sysop Vandal point of view]]) from which they can discern (magically) the [[alleged and collective identity|identity]] and intentions of persecuted people they label (derisively) &quot;[[trolls]]&quot;.  Their [[amateur psychiatry]] often includes categories defined in the [[w:DSM&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;-&lt;/ins&gt;IV&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;-TR&lt;/ins&gt;]] or other textbooks relying on the Western vanity.  Because sysops themselves are stupid and/or evil, this is not an honest attempt to actually &quot;help&quot; the people so classified, but an excuse to do harm to them.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;To fight back, actual [[trolls]] self-identify or assert a [[factionally defined]] ontology.  This provides a basis for argument that transcends mere [[sysop vandalism]] as its defining rationale - and creates more of a [[representative democracy]] or [[deliberative democracy]], to more correctly organize [[moral cognition]] of a wider variety of being - and beings.  Including those, like trolls, which aren&amp;#039;t human, but deserve great respect.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;To fight back, actual [[trolls]] self-identify or assert a [[factionally defined]] ontology.  This provides a basis for argument that transcends mere [[sysop vandalism]] as its defining rationale - and creates more of a [[representative democracy]] or [[deliberative democracy]], to more correctly organize [[moral cognition]] of a wider variety of being - and beings.  Including those, like trolls, which aren&amp;#039;t human, but deserve great respect.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The [[trollist]] political and cognitive ontology seems to centre around the [[world tree]] and the process of [[trollgnaw|gnawing]], which trolls do &amp;#039;&amp;#039;instead&amp;#039;&amp;#039; of &amp;quot;thinking&amp;quot;.  By avoiding thought and focusing on [[unthought]] (after [[w:Heidegger]]) trolls seek to avoid various [[subject-object problem]]s by making themselves always the object of any process.  The [[trolletariat]] is the political expression of this [[class conciousness]]:  as the trolls perceive themselves as an oppressed group, they naturally form categories useful to resist forms of oppression, some of which are in common with other oppressed groups like [[ape]]s or [[indigenous people]]s.  Then all can form a common front against [[sysopism]] as merely one aspect of [[militarism]], [[imperialism]], etc..&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The [[trollist]] political and cognitive ontology seems to centre around the [[world tree]] and the process of [[trollgnaw|gnawing]], which trolls do &amp;#039;&amp;#039;instead&amp;#039;&amp;#039; of &amp;quot;thinking&amp;quot;.  By avoiding thought and focusing on [[unthought]] (after [[w:Heidegger]]) trolls seek to avoid various [[subject-object problem]]s by making themselves always the object of any process.  The [[trolletariat]] is the political expression of this [[class conciousness]]:  as the trolls perceive themselves as an oppressed group, they naturally form categories useful to resist forms of oppression, some of which are in common with other oppressed groups like [[ape]]s or [[indigenous people]]s.  Then all can form a common front against [[sysopism]] as merely one aspect of [[militarism]], [[imperialism]], etc..&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<author><name>Jukeboksi</name></author>
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		<id>https://develop.consumerium.org/w/index.php?title=Ontology&amp;diff=4408&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>142.177.77.82 at 14:42, 9 July 2004</title>
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		<updated>2004-07-09T14:42:32Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;A compromise view from [[w:General Semantics]] as expressed in [[w:E Prime]] holds that &amp;quot;is&amp;quot; has no meaning at all, and being must be characterized more exactly as &amp;quot;[[becomes]], [[remains]], or [[equal]]s&amp;quot;.  The verb [[to be]] is disallowed - it is not part of the language.  Becomes clearly refers to what is true in the future, remains to what is true in the past, and equals to what is true only in the snapshot moment - and only this last is subject to mathematic proof or verification of any formal sort at all.  This is the advised way for [[Consumerium Services]] to proceed - the [[glossary]] should be based on this.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;A compromise view from [[w:General Semantics]] as expressed in [[w:E Prime]] holds that &amp;quot;is&amp;quot; has no meaning at all, and being must be characterized more exactly as &amp;quot;[[becomes]], [[remains]], or [[equal]]s&amp;quot;.  The verb [[to be]] is disallowed - it is not part of the language.  Becomes clearly refers to what is true in the future, remains to what is true in the past, and equals to what is true only in the snapshot moment - and only this last is subject to mathematic proof or verification of any formal sort at all.  This is the advised way for [[Consumerium Services]] to proceed - the [[glossary]] should be based on this.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Sysop]]s by contrast attempt to employ their own bastard ontology &quot;[[sysopism]]&quot; in which they too have God&#039;s Eye View &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;and &lt;/del&gt;can discern (magically) the [[alleged and collective identity|identity]] and intentions of persecuted people they label (derisively) &quot;[[trolls]]&quot;.  Their [[amateur psychiatry]] often includes categories defined in the [[w:DSM IV]] or other textbooks relying on the Western vanity.  Because sysops themselves are stupid and/or evil, this is not an honest attempt to actually &quot;help&quot; the people so classified, but an excuse to do harm to them.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Sysop]]s by contrast attempt to employ their own bastard ontology&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;, &lt;/ins&gt;&quot;[[sysopism]]&quot;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;, &lt;/ins&gt;in which they too have God&#039;s Eye View &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;(actually [[Sysop Vandal point of view]]) from which they &lt;/ins&gt;can discern (magically) the [[alleged and collective identity|identity]] and intentions of persecuted people they label (derisively) &quot;[[trolls]]&quot;.  Their [[amateur psychiatry]] often includes categories defined in the [[w:DSM IV]] or other textbooks relying on the Western vanity.  Because sysops themselves are stupid and/or evil, this is not an honest attempt to actually &quot;help&quot; the people so classified, but an excuse to do harm to them.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;To fight back, actual [[trolls]] self-identify or assert a [[factionally defined]] ontology.  This provides a basis for argument that transcends mere [[sysop vandalism]] as its defining rationale - and creates more of a [[representative democracy]] or [[deliberative democracy]], to more correctly organize [[moral cognition]] of a wider variety of being - and beings.  Including those, like trolls, which aren&amp;#039;t human, but deserve great respect.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;To fight back, actual [[trolls]] self-identify or assert a [[factionally defined]] ontology.  This provides a basis for argument that transcends mere [[sysop vandalism]] as its defining rationale - and creates more of a [[representative democracy]] or [[deliberative democracy]], to more correctly organize [[moral cognition]] of a wider variety of being - and beings.  Including those, like trolls, which aren&amp;#039;t human, but deserve great respect.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The [[trollist]] political and cognitive ontology seems to centre around the [[world tree]] and the process of [[trollgnaw|gnawing]], which trolls do &amp;#039;&amp;#039;instead&amp;#039;&amp;#039; of &amp;quot;thinking&amp;quot;.  By avoiding thought and focusing on [[unthought]] (after [[w:Heidegger]]) trolls seek to avoid various [[subject-object problem]]s by making themselves always the object of any process.  The [[trolletariat]] is the political expression of this [[class conciousness]]:  as the trolls perceive themselves as an oppressed group, they naturally form categories useful to resist forms of oppression, some of which are in common with other oppressed groups like [[ape]]s or [[indigenous people]]s.  Then all can form a common front against [[sysopism]] as merely one aspect of [[militarism]], [[imperialism]], etc..&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The [[trollist]] political and cognitive ontology seems to centre around the [[world tree]] and the process of [[trollgnaw|gnawing]], which trolls do &amp;#039;&amp;#039;instead&amp;#039;&amp;#039; of &amp;quot;thinking&amp;quot;.  By avoiding thought and focusing on [[unthought]] (after [[w:Heidegger]]) trolls seek to avoid various [[subject-object problem]]s by making themselves always the object of any process.  The [[trolletariat]] is the political expression of this [[class conciousness]]:  as the trolls perceive themselves as an oppressed group, they naturally form categories useful to resist forms of oppression, some of which are in common with other oppressed groups like [[ape]]s or [[indigenous people]]s.  Then all can form a common front against [[sysopism]] as merely one aspect of [[militarism]], [[imperialism]], etc..&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<id>https://develop.consumerium.org/w/index.php?title=Ontology&amp;diff=4402&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>142.177.77.82 at 14:40, 9 July 2004</title>
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l5&quot;&gt;Line 5:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;In Western theology, the less arrogant assertion is made that God makes states of being that humans must live with and work through:  life and the afterlife.  Other theologies such as [[w:Buddhism]] likewise make claims based on [[ontological distinction]]s that they claim are necessary to comprehend and accept the claims.  Any imposition of such distinctions is itself [[w:persuasion technology|persuasive]] and seductive.  The essence of an &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;ontological&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; approach to education is to change the [[glossary]] in which people discuss problems, as opposed to the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;teleological&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; approach which requires that they adopt a particular style of reasoning and argument.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;In Western theology, the less arrogant assertion is made that God makes states of being that humans must live with and work through:  life and the afterlife.  Other theologies such as [[w:Buddhism]] likewise make claims based on [[ontological distinction]]s that they claim are necessary to comprehend and accept the claims.  Any imposition of such distinctions is itself [[w:persuasion technology|persuasive]] and seductive.  The essence of an &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;ontological&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; approach to education is to change the [[glossary]] in which people discuss problems, as opposed to the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;teleological&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; approach which requires that they adopt a particular style of reasoning and argument.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Sysop&lt;/del&gt;]]&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;s attempt to employ their own bastard ontology &lt;/del&gt;in &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;which they too have God&#039;s Eye View &lt;/del&gt;and &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;can discern (magically) the intentions of so-called &lt;/del&gt;&quot;[[&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;trolls&lt;/del&gt;]]&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&quot;.  Their &lt;/del&gt;[[&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;amateur psychiatry&lt;/del&gt;]] &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;often includes categories defined in the &lt;/del&gt;[[&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;w:DSM IV&lt;/del&gt;]] &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;or other textbooks relying on &lt;/del&gt;the &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Western vanity&lt;/del&gt;.  &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Because sysops themselves are stupid &lt;/del&gt;and&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;/or evil, &lt;/del&gt;this is &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;not an honest attempt &lt;/del&gt;to &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;actually &quot;help&quot; &lt;/del&gt;the &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;people so classified, but an excuse &lt;/del&gt;to &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;do harm to them&lt;/del&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;A compromise view from &lt;/ins&gt;[[&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;w:General Semantics&lt;/ins&gt;]] &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;as expressed &lt;/ins&gt;in &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[w:E Prime]] holds that &quot;is&quot; has no meaning at all, &lt;/ins&gt;and &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;being must be characterized more exactly as &lt;/ins&gt;&quot;[[&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;becomes]], [[remains&lt;/ins&gt;]]&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;, or &lt;/ins&gt;[[&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;equal&lt;/ins&gt;]]&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;s&quot;.  The verb &lt;/ins&gt;[[&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;to be&lt;/ins&gt;]] &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;is disallowed - it is not part of &lt;/ins&gt;the &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;language&lt;/ins&gt;.  &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Becomes clearly refers to what is true in the future, remains to what is true in the past, and equals to what is true only in the snapshot moment - &lt;/ins&gt;and &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;only &lt;/ins&gt;this &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;last &lt;/ins&gt;is &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;subject &lt;/ins&gt;to &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;mathematic proof or verification of any formal sort at all.  This is &lt;/ins&gt;the &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;advised way for [[Consumerium Services]] &lt;/ins&gt;to &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;proceed - the [[glossary]] should be based on this&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;To fight back, actual [[trolls]] self-identify or assert a [[factionally defined]] ontology.  This provides a basis for argument that transcends mere [[sysop vandalism]] as its defining rationale - and creates more of a [[representative democracy]] or [[deliberative democracy]], to more correctly organize [[moral cognition]] of a wider variety of being - and beings.  Including those, like trolls, which aren&#039;t human.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[Sysop]]s by contrast attempt to employ their own bastard ontology &quot;[[sysopism]]&quot; in which they too have God&#039;s Eye View and can discern (magically) the [[alleged and collective identity|identity]] and intentions of persecuted people they label (derisively) &quot;[[trolls]]&quot;.  Their [[amateur psychiatry]] often includes categories defined in the [[w:DSM IV]] or other textbooks relying on the Western vanity.  Because sysops themselves are stupid and/or evil, this is not an honest attempt to actually &quot;help&quot; the people so classified, but an excuse to do harm to them.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;To fight back, actual [[trolls]] self-identify or assert a [[factionally defined]] ontology.  This provides a basis for argument that transcends mere [[sysop vandalism]] as its defining rationale - and creates more of a [[representative democracy]] or [[deliberative democracy]], to more correctly organize [[moral cognition]] of a wider variety of being - and beings.  Including those, like trolls, which aren&#039;t human&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;, but deserve great respect.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;The [[trollist]] political and cognitive ontology seems to centre around the [[world tree]] and the process of [[trollgnaw|gnawing]], which trolls do &#039;&#039;instead&#039;&#039; of &quot;thinking&quot;.  By avoiding thought and focusing on [[unthought]] (after [[w:Heidegger]]) trolls seek to avoid various [[subject-object problem]]s by making themselves always the object of any process.  The [[trolletariat]] is the political expression of this [[class conciousness]]:  as the trolls perceive themselves as an oppressed group, they naturally form categories useful to resist forms of oppression, some of which are in common with other oppressed groups like [[ape]]s or [[indigenous people]]s.  Then all can form a common front against [[sysopism]] as merely one aspect of [[militarism]], [[imperialism]], etc.&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>142.177.77.82 at 14:30, 9 July 2004</title>
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		<updated>2004-07-09T14:30:24Z</updated>

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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;An &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;ontology&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is a statement of &amp;quot;what is&amp;quot;, a categorization of states or types of &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;being&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;.  &lt;br /&gt;
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In Western philosophy, which arrogantly asserts that people trained in it can actually discern types of being or &amp;quot;what is&amp;quot; reliably, [[w:ontology]] is considered to be merely a branch of [[w:metaphysics]].  This is however stupid, and the people who believe this are vain and arrogant fools:  they do not have the [[God&amp;#039;s Eye View]] required to make such statements other than as their own opinion, and these opinions are arbitrary, unverifiable, and unshared with people outside their own academic discipline.  A philosopher is merely a waste of skin.&lt;br /&gt;
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In Western theology, the less arrogant assertion is made that God makes states of being that humans must live with and work through:  life and the afterlife.  Other theologies such as [[w:Buddhism]] likewise make claims based on [[ontological distinction]]s that they claim are necessary to comprehend and accept the claims.  Any imposition of such distinctions is itself [[w:persuasion technology|persuasive]] and seductive.  The essence of an &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;ontological&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; approach to education is to change the [[glossary]] in which people discuss problems, as opposed to the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;teleological&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; approach which requires that they adopt a particular style of reasoning and argument.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Sysop]]s attempt to employ their own bastard ontology in which they too have God&amp;#039;s Eye View and can discern (magically) the intentions of so-called &amp;quot;[[trolls]]&amp;quot;.  Their [[amateur psychiatry]] often includes categories defined in the [[w:DSM IV]] or other textbooks relying on the Western vanity.  Because sysops themselves are stupid and/or evil, this is not an honest attempt to actually &amp;quot;help&amp;quot; the people so classified, but an excuse to do harm to them.&lt;br /&gt;
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To fight back, actual [[trolls]] self-identify or assert a [[factionally defined]] ontology.  This provides a basis for argument that transcends mere [[sysop vandalism]] as its defining rationale - and creates more of a [[representative democracy]] or [[deliberative democracy]], to more correctly organize [[moral cognition]] of a wider variety of being - and beings.  Including those, like trolls, which aren&amp;#039;t human.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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