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142.177.112.130: no ideology... just limits... very Confucian perhaps

2004-03-05T19:28:39Z

no ideology... just limits... very Confucian perhaps

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	:"I, the Lowest Troll, am sorry, Master Troll, but I find that the time that I with my inferior capacity to argue and comprehend your detailed arguments, is now impossible for me to justify given the range scope and apparent usefulness of your contributions. Thus I descend, like the vile creature that I am, to a sad measure, and feel I must [[block IP]] temporarily in order to give your many sage arguments the time and attention they truly deserve. If you return in some other guise, as a [[sock puppet]] perhaps, you may be able to elaborate, but preferably different arguments and issues, as I have not been able to fully absorb the ones you have so far advanced. Other '''Lowly Trolls''' are of course available to assist you in advancing your [[trollish]] views, even perhaps to form a [[dissensus]] that will displace me as '''Lowest''', as some of them perhaps seek. No doubt their sharp critique and better ability to argue without resorting to vile technology, perhaps even on other [[large public wiki]]s, is of more use to you than my poor skills as available in the limited time I can offer to your sage and great arguments here."		:"I, the Lowest Troll, am sorry, Master Troll, but I find that the time that I with my inferior capacity to argue and comprehend your detailed arguments, is now impossible for me to justify given the range scope and apparent usefulness of your contributions. Thus I descend, like the vile creature that I am, to a sad measure, and feel I must [[block IP]] temporarily in order to give your many sage arguments the time and attention they truly deserve. If you return in some other guise, as a [[sock puppet]] perhaps, you may be able to elaborate, but preferably different arguments and issues, as I have not been able to fully absorb the ones you have so far advanced. Other '''Lowly Trolls''' are of course available to assist you in advancing your [[trollish]] views, even perhaps to form a [[dissensus]] that will displace me as '''Lowest''', as some of them perhaps seek. No doubt their sharp critique and better ability to argue without resorting to vile technology, perhaps even on other [[large public wiki]]s, is of more use to you than my poor skills as available in the limited time I can offer to your sage and great arguments here."

	Some confuse the '''Lowest Troll''' with a [[GodKing]]. However, they are clearly not, as the GodKing claims moral superiority when he exercises his technological superiority or ownership powers, whereas the Lowest Troll is careful always to claim moral INFERIORITY whenever he uses these vile powers granted by [[power structure]]s that have nothing to do with the truth itself.		Some confuse the '''Lowest Troll''' with a [[GodKing]]. However, they are clearly not, as the GodKing claims moral superiority when he exercises his technological superiority or ownership powers, whereas the Lowest Troll is careful always to claim moral INFERIORITY whenever he uses these vile powers granted by [[power structure]]s that have nothing to do with the truth itself. Also the LT never uses a vile ideology like [[virtual community]] or [[soft security]] to justify or reflect some [[community point of view]]. Excuses for what an LT does are always phrased regarding his or her or its or their own lack of time and cognition, and should always clearly reflect only his or her or its or their own cognition. Accordingly, other '''Lowly Troll'''s are under no obligation to copy or enforce that view, but can adopt quite different views and tactics. [[Diversity is good]]. Don't you think?

142.177.112.130 at 19:25, 5 March 2004

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	For instance here is a suggested kiss-off for someone who cannot be [[driven off by trolls]] and will not reform despite furious attempts to troll them into becoming proper trolls:		For instance here is a suggested kiss-off for someone who cannot be [[driven off by trolls]] and will not reform despite furious attempts to troll them into becoming proper trolls:

	:"I, the Lowest Troll, am sorry, Master Troll, but I find that the time that I with my inferior capacity to argue and comprehend your detailed arguments, is now impossible for me to justify given the range scope and apparent usefulness of your contributions. Thus I descend, like the vile creature that I am, to a sad measure, and feel I must [[block IP]] temporarily in order to give your many sage arguments the time and attention they truly deserve. If you return in some other guise, as a [[sock puppet]] perhaps, you may be able to elaborate, but preferably different arguments and issues, as I have not been able to fully absorb the ones you have so far advanced. Other '''Lowly Trolls''' are of course available to assist you in advancing your [[trollish]] views, ~~and no~~ doubt their sharp critique and better ability to argue without resorting to vile technology, perhaps even on other [[large public wiki]]s, is of more use to you than my poor skills."		:"I, the Lowest Troll, am sorry, Master Troll, but I find that the time that I with my inferior capacity to argue and comprehend your detailed arguments, is now impossible for me to justify given the range scope and apparent usefulness of your contributions. Thus I descend, like the vile creature that I am, to a sad measure, and feel I must [[block IP]] temporarily in order to give your many sage arguments the time and attention they truly deserve. If you return in some other guise, as a [[sock puppet]] perhaps, you may be able to elaborate, but preferably different arguments and issues, as I have not been able to fully absorb the ones you have so far advanced. Other '''Lowly Trolls''' are of course available to assist you in advancing your [[trollish]] views, even perhaps to form a [[dissensus]] that will displace me as '''Lowest''', as some of them perhaps seek. No doubt their sharp critique and better ability to argue without resorting to vile technology, perhaps even on other [[large public wiki]]s, is of more use to you than my poor skills as available in the limited time I can offer to your sage and great arguments here."

	Some confuse the '''Lowest Troll''' with a [[GodKing]]. However, they are clearly not, as the GodKing claims moral superiority when he exercises his technological superiority or ownership powers, whereas the Lowest Troll is careful always to claim moral INFERIORITY whenever he uses these vile powers granted by [[power structure]]s that have nothing to do with the truth itself.		Some confuse the '''Lowest Troll''' with a [[GodKing]]. However, they are clearly not, as the GodKing claims moral superiority when he exercises his technological superiority or ownership powers, whereas the Lowest Troll is careful always to claim moral INFERIORITY whenever he uses these vile powers granted by [[power structure]]s that have nothing to do with the truth itself.

142.177.112.130 at 19:22, 5 March 2004

2004-03-05T19:22:27Z

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''[[Trolls]] are honoured to offer [[User:Juxo]] the title of...''

In a [[large public wiki]], the '''Lowest Troll''' is that [[troll]] who takes on the sad duty of engaging all the other [[trolls]] and trying to use [[political virtues]] on them, to make them not quite tame but also not quite wild, and integrate their [[trollish]] contributions into the [[GFDL text corpus]]. He, she, it, or they (Trolls having indeterminate gender and number) uses diplomacy and humour to avoid having to create a [[sysop power structure]] or any [[permission-based model]] at all. Particularly '''Lowly Trolls''' may act as lieutenants to take the "lowd" off the Lowest Troll, but this should not be mistaken for any kind of [[soft security]] system. It isn't, it's more of a game. The concept of "security" is not applicable to anyone seeking the truth. Those [[driven off by trolls]] should be those concealing the truth, not those exposing it.

If the '''Lowest Troll''' must put some limits on being [[troll-friendly]], it is suggested to do so as an apology, an acknowledgement of that troll's own limits, rather than the [[sysop vigilantiism]] model of using technological superiority to claim moral superiority. What makes trolls better than sysops is that the trolls ''know'' that to use [[w:technological escalation]] is to become morally inferior ''by definition'', i.e. technology is an evil way to solve a problem, and morality to sort out issues between people is a good way (see also [[Employability]] for the issue of technology displacing labour).

For instance here is a suggested kiss-off for someone who cannot be [[driven off by trolls]] and will not reform despite furious attempts to troll them into becoming proper trolls:

:"I, the Lowest Troll, am sorry, Master Troll, but I find that the time that I with my inferior capacity to argue and comprehend your detailed arguments, is now impossible for me to justify given the range scope and apparent usefulness of your contributions. Thus I descend, like the vile creature that I am, to a sad measure, and feel I must [[block IP]] temporarily in order to give your many sage arguments the time and attention they truly deserve. If you return in some other guise, as a [[sock puppet]] perhaps, you may be able to elaborate, but preferably different arguments and issues, as I have not been able to fully absorb the ones you have so far advanced. Other '''Lowly Trolls''' are of course available to assist you in advancing your [[trollish]] views, and no doubt their sharp critique and better ability to argue without resorting to vile technology, perhaps even on other [[large public wiki]]s, is of more use to you than my poor skills."

Some confuse the '''Lowest Troll''' with a [[GodKing]]. However, they are clearly not, as the GodKing claims moral superiority when he exercises his technological superiority or ownership powers, whereas the Lowest Troll is careful always to claim moral INFERIORITY whenever he uses these vile powers granted by [[power structure]]s that have nothing to do with the truth itself.