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		<title>142.177.109.161: many have done</title>
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		<updated>2004-09-09T22:55:33Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;many have done&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 22:55, 9 September 2004&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l5&quot;&gt;Line 5:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Those making true statements about organizations with very poor reputations are libel-proof under Florida law.  In a 1999 case involving a [[perjury|convicted criminal]] seeking parole, his &amp;quot;reputation before the article was so poor, and that the undisputedly true statements in the article were so harmful, that he could not be further injured by supposedly false statements about his criminal past.&amp;quot; - [http://www.hklaw.com/Publications/Newsletters.asp?ID=56&amp;amp;Article=164]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Those making true statements about organizations with very poor reputations are libel-proof under Florida law.  In a 1999 case involving a [[perjury|convicted criminal]] seeking parole, his &amp;quot;reputation before the article was so poor, and that the undisputedly true statements in the article were so harmful, that he could not be further injured by supposedly false statements about his criminal past.&amp;quot; - [http://www.hklaw.com/Publications/Newsletters.asp?ID=56&amp;amp;Article=164]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Since Wikimedia often engages in criminal [[libel]] (usually in the context of [[outing|trying to expose its enemies]]) and authorizes various forms of confiscation of property (donated works of [[GFDL contributor]]s) with [[Wikipedia violates GFDL|no legal basis for claiming ownership or control]], it would seem quite difficult to be guilty of libel for simply saying this is so.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Since Wikimedia often engages in criminal [[libel]] (usually in the context of [[outing|trying to expose its enemies]]) and authorizes various forms of confiscation of property (donated works of [[GFDL contributor]]s) with [[Wikipedia violates GFDL|no legal basis for claiming ownership or control]], it would seem quite difficult to be guilty of libel for simply saying this is so&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;.  As a great many people have done&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<id>https://develop.consumerium.org/w/index.php?title=Libel_against_Wikimedia&amp;diff=5240&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>142.177.109.161: you want to talk law?  here&#039;s the REAL law</title>
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		<updated>2004-09-09T22:42:43Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;you want to talk law?  here&amp;#039;s the REAL law&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;#REDIRECT &lt;/del&gt;[[&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;alleged &lt;/del&gt;Wikimedia corruption]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;While &#039;&#039;&#039;libel against Wikimedia&#039;&#039;&#039; is probably legally impossible (due to [[Florida]] law, see below), claims that such lawsuits will be pursued (using donated and public money presumably - what other money does Wikimedia have?) constitute [[libel chill]] very often on the [[Wikipedia mailing list]].  With no real prospect of gaining damages for the [[Wikimedia Foundation]] there is no way to interpret such a use of funds as anything but &lt;/ins&gt;[[Wikimedia corruption]]&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;, should it occur, advancing the interests of officers not that of the foundation itself.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;=== libel proof ===&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Those making true statements about organizations with very poor reputations are libel-proof under Florida law.  In a 1999 case involving a [[perjury|convicted criminal]] seeking parole, his &quot;reputation before the article was so poor, and that the undisputedly true statements in the article were so harmful, that he could not be further injured by supposedly false statements about his criminal past.&quot; - [http://www.hklaw.com/Publications/Newsletters.asp?ID=56&amp;amp;Article=164]&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Since Wikimedia often engages in criminal [[libel]] (usually in the context of [[outing|trying to expose its enemies]]) and authorizes various forms of confiscation of property (donated works of [[GFDL contributor]]s) with [[Wikipedia violates GFDL|no legal basis for claiming ownership or control]], it would seem quite difficult to be guilty of libel for simply saying this is so.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>142.177.97.118: #REDIRECT alleged Wikimedia corruption;  if someone wants to claim libel against Wikimedia they&#039;re going to have to deal with all the true allegations</title>
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		<updated>2004-08-19T20:43:51Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;#REDIRECT &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/Alleged_Wikimedia_corruption&quot; class=&quot;mw-redirect&quot; title=&quot;Alleged Wikimedia corruption&quot;&gt;alleged Wikimedia corruption&lt;/a&gt;;  if someone wants to claim libel against Wikimedia they&amp;#039;re going to have to deal with all the true allegations&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;#REDIRECT [[alleged Wikimedia corruption]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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