GFDL text corpus - Revision history

Trolling Consumerium at 13:03, 23 June 2004

2004-06-23T13:03:05Z

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	The '''GFDL text corpus''' is simply the [[text corpus]] that is under [[GFDL]]. The GFDL itself ensures that the original sources of such texts ''cannot'' control the disposition of the material (this is called the [[right to fork]]). Accordingly there are competing text bases in various places, such as the [[Internet Encyclopedia]] (which is run with the assistance of [[Wikipedia]] developers, and therefore suspect in the eyes of [[troll]]s) and the Consumerium R&D wiki - where [[moral purchasing]] and [[comprehensive outcome]] and [[transparency]] are going to be more intensely examined than at any other GFDL-based service.		The '''GFDL text corpus''' is simply the [[text corpus]] that is under [[GFDL]]. The GFDL itself ensures that the original sources of such texts ''cannot'' control the disposition of the material (this is called the [[right to fork]]). Accordingly there are competing text bases in various places, such as the [[Internet Encyclopedia]] (which we might strongly support as Wikipedia has joined the [[enemy projects]], but is run with the assistance of [[Wikipedia]] developers, and therefore suspect in the eyes of [[troll]]s) and the Consumerium R&D wiki - where [[moral purchasing]] and [[comprehensive outcome]] and [[transparency]] are going to be more intensely examined than at any other GFDL-based service.

	[[Trolls]] seek to achieve independence of user interface and access the GFDL text corpus itself directly through any user interface. This they are doing at present through use of tools they do not share with non-trolls, so little can be said about these. If this fails they may use legal means against [[software imperialism]], e.g. GFDL clauses violated by [[Wikipedia]], libel laws violated by [[sysop power structure]] which have turned Wikipedia into a [[libel pit]].		[[Trolls]] seek to achieve independence of user interface and access the GFDL text corpus itself directly through any user interface. This they are doing at present through use of tools they do not share with non-trolls, so little can be said about these. If this fails they may use legal means against [[software imperialism]], e.g. GFDL clauses violated by [[Wikipedia]], libel laws violated by [[sysop power structure]] which have turned Wikipedia into a [[libel pit]].
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	Eventually, by a combination of legal and technical means, trolls will succeed, and the GFDL text corpus will be liberated and visible and editable as a whole, and it will be relatively easy to undo [[sysop vandalism]] and avoid [[cabal]]s.		Eventually, by a combination of legal and technical means, trolls will succeed, and the GFDL text corpus will be liberated and visible and editable as a whole, and it will be relatively easy to undo [[sysop vandalism]] and avoid [[cabal]]s.

			At which point, a group something like [[m:The ideal Wikipedia board]] must be recruited to decide how best to evolve it to do some good for this planet...

142.177.75.109: no standard for wikitext, and only one software suite, and usurpers control that...

2004-01-16T23:50:15Z

no standard for wikitext, and only one software suite, and usurpers control *that*...

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	The '''GFDL text corpus''' is simply the [[text corpus]] that is under [[GFDL]]. The GFDL itself ensures that the original sources of such texts ''cannot'' control the disposition of the material (this is called the [[right to fork]]). Accordingly there are competing text bases in various places, such as the [[Internet Encyclopedia]] (which is run with the assistance of [[Wikipedia]] developers, and therefore suspect in the eyes of [[troll]]s) and the Consumerium R&D wiki - where [[moral purchasing]] and [[comprehensive outcome]] and [[transparency]] are going to be more intensely examined than at any other GFDL-based service.		The '''GFDL text corpus''' is simply the [[text corpus]] that is under [[GFDL]]. The GFDL itself ensures that the original sources of such texts ''cannot'' control the disposition of the material (this is called the [[right to fork]]). Accordingly there are competing text bases in various places, such as the [[Internet Encyclopedia]] (which is run with the assistance of [[Wikipedia]] developers, and therefore suspect in the eyes of [[troll]]s) and the Consumerium R&D wiki - where [[moral purchasing]] and [[comprehensive outcome]] and [[transparency]] are going to be more intensely examined than at any other GFDL-based service.

	[[Trolls]] seek to achieve independence of user interface and access the GFDL text corpus itself directly through any user interface. This they are doing at present through use of tools they do not share with non-trolls, so little can be said about these. If this fails they may use legal means against [[software imperialism]], e.g. GFDL clauses violated by [[Wikipedia]], libel laws violated by [[sysop power structure]] which have turned Wikipedia into a [[libel pit]]. A key problem is that most GFDL text is in a [[data jail]] inside [[MySQL dump]]s, which is not even close to satisfying the GFDL clauses requiring source text access. For instance, a decompression utility must be used to read the text.		[[Trolls]] seek to achieve independence of user interface and access the GFDL text corpus itself directly through any user interface. This they are doing at present through use of tools they do not share with non-trolls, so little can be said about these. If this fails they may use legal means against [[software imperialism]], e.g. GFDL clauses violated by [[Wikipedia]], libel laws violated by [[sysop power structure]] which have turned Wikipedia into a [[libel pit]].

	Eventually, by a combination of legal and technical means, trolls will succeed, and the GFDL text corpus will be liberated and visible and editable as a whole.		One problem is that most GFDL text is at present in a [[data jail]] inside [[MySQL dump]]s, which is not even close to satisfying the GFDL clauses requiring source text access. While a decompression utility provides access to the strings, only one software suite ([[mediawiki]]) can actually present it, as there is no [[wikitext standard]] - a form of [[developer usurpation]]?

			Eventually, by a combination of legal and technical means, trolls will succeed, and the GFDL text corpus will be liberated and visible and editable as a whole, and it will be relatively easy to undo [[sysop vandalism]] and avoid [[cabal]]s.

Tin Filo: Expanding perspective -- the whole world doesn't consist of Wikipedia

2004-01-15T06:50:29Z

Expanding perspective -- the whole world doesn't consist of Wikipedia

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	The '''GFDL text corpus''' is simply the [[text corpus]] that is under [[GFDL]]~~. This is often wrongly referred to as "the Wikipedia" meaning the current body of GFDL licensed material accessible via the [[Wikipedia]] user interface~~. The GFDL itself ensures that ~~Wikipedia is ''only'' an interface, and that it~~ ''cannot'' control the disposition of the material (this is called the [[right to fork]]). Accordingly there are competing text bases in various places, such as the [[Internet Encyclopedia]] (which ~~we might strongly support as~~ Wikipedia ~~has joined~~ the [[~~enemy projects~~]]) and the Consumerium R&D wiki - where [[moral purchasing]] and [[comprehensive outcome]] and [[transparency]] are going to be more intensely examined than at any other GFDL-based service.		The '''GFDL text corpus''' is simply the [[text corpus]] that is under [[GFDL]]. The GFDL itself ensures that the original sources of such texts ''cannot'' control the disposition of the material (this is called the [[right to fork]]). Accordingly there are competing text bases in various places, such as the [[Internet Encyclopedia]] (which is run with the assistance of [[Wikipedia]] developers, and therefore suspect in the eyes of [[troll]]s) and the Consumerium R&D wiki - where [[moral purchasing]] and [[comprehensive outcome]] and [[transparency]] are going to be more intensely examined than at any other GFDL-based service.

	[[Trolls]] seek to achieve independence of user interface and access the GFDL text corpus itself directly through any user interface. This they are doing at present through use of tools they do not share with non-trolls, so little can be said about these. If this fails they may use legal means against [[software imperialism]], e.g. GFDL clauses violated by [[Wikipedia]], libel laws violated by [[sysop power structure]] which have turned Wikipedia into a [[libel pit]]. A key problem is that most GFDL text is in a [[data jail]] inside [[MySQL dump]]s, which is not even close to satisfying the GFDL clauses requiring source text access.		[[Trolls]] seek to achieve independence of user interface and access the GFDL text corpus itself directly through any user interface. This they are doing at present through use of tools they do not share with non-trolls, so little can be said about these. If this fails they may use legal means against [[software imperialism]], e.g. GFDL clauses violated by [[Wikipedia]], libel laws violated by [[sysop power structure]] which have turned Wikipedia into a [[libel pit]]. A key problem is that most GFDL text is in a [[data jail]] inside [[MySQL dump]]s, which is not even close to satisfying the GFDL clauses requiring source text access. For instance, a decompression utility must be used to read the text.

	Eventually, by a combination of legal and technical means, trolls will succeed, and the GFDL text corpus will be liberated and visible and editable as a whole.		Eventually, by a combination of legal and technical means, trolls will succeed, and the GFDL text corpus will be liberated and visible and editable as a whole.

	~~At which point, a group something like [[m:The ideal Wikipedia board]] must be recruited to decide how best to evolve it to do some good for this planet...~~

142.177.6.158: link

2004-01-09T20:52:31Z

link

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	Eventually, by a combination of legal and technical means, trolls will succeed, and the GFDL text corpus will be liberated and visible and editable as a whole.		Eventually, by a combination of legal and technical means, trolls will succeed, and the GFDL text corpus will be liberated and visible and editable as a whole.

			At which point, a group something like [[m:The ideal Wikipedia board]] must be recruited to decide how best to evolve it to do some good for this planet...

142.177.99.226: liberating it from fascists

2003-12-25T00:52:35Z

liberating it from fascists

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The '''GFDL text corpus''' is simply the [[text corpus]] that is under [[GFDL]]. This is often wrongly referred to as "the Wikipedia" meaning the current body of GFDL licensed material accessible via the [[Wikipedia]] user interface. The GFDL itself ensures that Wikipedia is ''only'' an interface, and that it ''cannot'' control the disposition of the material (this is called the [[right to fork]]). Accordingly there are competing text bases in various places, such as the [[Internet Encyclopedia]] (which we might strongly support as Wikipedia has joined the [[enemy projects]]) and the Consumerium R&D wiki - where [[moral purchasing]] and [[comprehensive outcome]] and [[transparency]] are going to be more intensely examined than at any other GFDL-based service.

[[Trolls]] seek to achieve independence of user interface and access the GFDL text corpus itself directly through any user interface. This they are doing at present through use of tools they do not share with non-trolls, so little can be said about these. If this fails they may use legal means against [[software imperialism]], e.g. GFDL clauses violated by [[Wikipedia]], libel laws violated by [[sysop power structure]] which have turned Wikipedia into a [[libel pit]]. A key problem is that most GFDL text is in a [[data jail]] inside [[MySQL dump]]s, which is not even close to satisfying the GFDL clauses requiring source text access.

Eventually, by a combination of legal and technical means, trolls will succeed, and the GFDL text corpus will be liberated and visible and editable as a whole.

GFDL text corpus - Revision history

Trolling Consumerium at 13:03, 23 June 2004

142.177.75.109: no standard for wikitext, and only one software suite, and usurpers control *that*...

Tin Filo: Expanding perspective -- the whole world doesn't consist of Wikipedia

142.177.6.158: link

142.177.99.226: liberating it from fascists

142.177.75.109: no standard for wikitext, and only one software suite, and usurpers control that...