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		<title>142.177.92.38 at 15:52, 29 May 2004</title>
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 15:52, 29 May 2004&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;A &#039;&#039;&#039;GFDL corpus access provider&#039;&#039;&#039; or &#039;&#039;&#039;GFDLcap&#039;&#039;&#039; is a [[web service]] or other [[net media]], or potentially even [[email]] or [[CD-ROM]] distributor, that provides access to a large portion of the [[GFDL corpus]] [[open content]].&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;A &#039;&#039;&#039;GFDL corpus access provider&#039;&#039;&#039; or &#039;&#039;&#039;GFDLcap&#039;&#039;&#039; is a [[web service]] or other [[net media]], or potentially even [[email]] or [[CD-ROM]] distributor, that provides access to a large portion of the [[GFDL corpus]] [[open content]]. &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt; &#039;&#039;If it also has [[wikitext standard]] editing facilities then it is often referred to generically as &#039;&#039;&#039;a wikipedia&#039;&#039;&#039;, because:&#039;&#039;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== current options ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== current options ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>142.177.12.26: adapting from Wikinfo,updating</title>
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		<updated>2004-04-09T19:32:34Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;adapting from Wikinfo,updating&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;A &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;GFDL corpus access provider&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; or &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;GFDLcap&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is a [[web service]] or other [[net media]], or potentially even [[email]] or [[CD-ROM]] distributor, that provides access to a large portion of the [[GFDL corpus]] [[open content]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== current options ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The best known of these is [[Wikipedia]].  There is often some confusion between that project and the corpus, and this is often facilitated by[[Wikimedia]] which finds this confusion to be [[conflict of interest|in its own interest]].  &amp;#039;&amp;#039;This leads to some [[GFDL]] issues:  notably the technical barriers to retrieval of text from some [[IP address]]es, and failure to clearly publish, or even [[XML export]], the complete list of contributors.  Also, Wikimedia makes spurious demands for links even of other GFDLcap - these are not required by the GFDL and are effectively ads for [[Wikimedia itself]].&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Wikinfo]] and [[Recyclopedia]] are lesser known &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;access provider&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;s, in stricter compliance with the GFDL, to the degree that is possible given that it relies on [[XML export]] by [[Wikipedia]] for most content, and this export itself is not in compliance.  &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Unfortunately, [[Wikimedia]] sysops choose to deal with this by engaging in [[vandalbot]] activity and [[denial of service attack]]s against [[Recyclopedia]], and threatening legal action against [[Wikinfo]] or [[GetWiki]].  This is likely due to commercial [[conflict of interest]] that is threatened by the evolution of these more democratic projects.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Wikinfo]] takes a [[sympathetic point of view]], refusing to mix critical and sympathetic views in an article.  &amp;#039;&amp;#039;This is a direct challenge to the [[neutral point of view]] [[wiki ideology]] that is promoted by Wikimedia [[usurper]]s, since that view gives maximum power to those who claim to be &amp;#039;neutral&amp;#039; but are in a position of technologically granted power.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Other corpus access providers focus on particular subsets of the material, and do not have facilities to automatically import via the Wikipedia interface:&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Consumerpedia]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Disinfopedia]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Consumerium]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Metaweb]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Presumably, if they adopt such facilities, they too will be attacked by Wikimedia.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== challenges ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are several challenges common to all &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;GFDL corpus access provider&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;s:&lt;br /&gt;
*agreeing on a [[wikitext standard]] and priorities to guide [[wiki code]] changes to accomodate it; &amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[GetWiki]] and [[MediaWiki]] are so far the only options.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*meeting the rigid terms of the [[GFDL]] itself, especially with regard to [[attribution]] and [[source access]], i.e. to the original text written in the [[wikitext standard]], not the [[HTML]] form into which it is rendered for [[printable page|print]]s or presentation.&lt;br /&gt;
::lack of [[interwiki identity standard]] makes attribution quite unreliable&lt;br /&gt;
::having one [[standard wiki URI]] from which to retrieve the source, that can be easily predicted and made permanent&lt;br /&gt;
::[[interwiki link standard]]s so that differently-purposed or POV&amp;#039;d [[large public wiki]]s can link to each other&lt;br /&gt;
*resolving [[point of view]] differences, to which there are several approaches:&lt;br /&gt;
::[[neutral point of view]] tries to do this always within one article, attributing disputed claims, but of course, a [[systemic bias]] then applies&lt;br /&gt;
::[[multiple point of view]] tries to separate views into articles of their own, e.g. as at [[Metaweb]] or via the &amp;quot;faction&amp;quot; system proposed at some wikis&lt;br /&gt;
::[[sympathetic point of view]] tries to separate positive and negative views, whatever that means&lt;br /&gt;
*dealing with [[server load]], especially for [[full text search]]&lt;br /&gt;
*inadequate PHP-based software like [[MediaWiki]] and [[GetWiki]] - a concern [[Metaweb]]&amp;#039;s supporters are paying particular attention to&lt;br /&gt;
*compiling and [[collaborative filter]]ing to present adapted articles - a concern [[Consumerium]] takes very seriously&lt;br /&gt;
*[[governance]] problems in deal with a very large group of editors, &amp;#039;&amp;#039;see [[rule of 150]] for one possible limit to this&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*Tracking with change to the [[GFDL corpus]] as a whole, so that the best material can be copied into those services interested in presenting it to their users.&lt;br /&gt;
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== future integration ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are proposals extant to track all changes to the GFDL corpus in any of the known &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;access providers&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, and perhaps simplify signup for [[jabber]] or other services that could serve as basis for [[interwiki identity standard]].  Such proposals are simplified by an [[interwiki link standard]] and [[standard wiki URI]], though they are not strictly required simply for tracking.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are also proposals to work with [[FSF]] and [[Creative Commons]] much more closely to ensure that abuses of the [[GFDL]]&amp;#039;s terms and spirit, end.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Consumerium Governance Organization]] will probably need to take some strong interest in this process, in order to make free use of freely edited texts.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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