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		<title>Virtual community at 21:30, 21 May 2004</title>
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		<updated>2004-05-21T21:30:35Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;While this etiquette may make [[sysops]] sometimes more annoyed due to having to put up with more [[trolls]], no trolls will be harmed just for annoying any sysops, and this in the long run will make sysops far better life protectors!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;While this etiquette may make [[sysops]] sometimes more annoyed due to having to put up with more [[trolls]], no trolls will be harmed just for annoying any sysops, and this in the long run will make sysops far better life protectors!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;A mainstream theory is that etiquette is a form of minimal [[negative ethics]], i.e. exceptions to an ethical framework that make it acceptable to humans who otherwise would not be able to apply it fully, &quot;situations where ethics doesn&#039;t count&quot;, e.g. where lies are acceptable, or a number of standard hypocrisies.  Judith Martin is very clear about this:  etiquette is hypocrisy.  I would say that it is the limits of ethics, and does not embody it except insofar as it protects bodies by what it discourages the investigation of.  The [[Rise of Martinets|Martinets]], then, are those who break all ethical rules by extending etiquette to beyond its breaking point, to the point where it is actually enforcing an &#039;unethic&#039; - a set of excuses to risk and [[bodily harm|harm bodies]] for [[ideology|ideological]] purposes.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>142.177.104.244: be careful what you ask or reveal</title>
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		<updated>2003-04-20T20:45:19Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;be careful what you ask or reveal&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Etiquette&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; on [[Consumerium]] is still poorly understood.  For instance this file was authored by [[trolls]] and it is not sure that they really are the ones who understand it best.  For now take all this as a DRAFT, at best:&lt;br /&gt;
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*purpose of [[Consumerium]] is to protect lovely living things from stupid ignorant unliving things (like &amp;quot;bodies of capital&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;production processes&amp;quot;) that stomp on them often without caring to&lt;br /&gt;
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*to avoid harming life here we only ask certain questions or reveal data on&lt;br /&gt;
** &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;who&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; wrote something in a formal [[m:TIPAESA|structure like TIPAESA]] where formal [[evidence]] is tracked for [[source]] or [[authority]].&lt;br /&gt;
** &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;where&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; someone or something is, down to the [[ecoregion]] or [[city]] but not deeper down, e.g. their street address unless they are doing some provable harm to real life.&lt;br /&gt;
** &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;why&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; someone may bring up a certain fact - that can be balanced by bringing in counter-opinion, not by psychiatry or slandering early authors&lt;br /&gt;
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Questions of &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;how&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;when&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; and &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;how much&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; are far more open as they do not hold up bodies to scrutiny by non-living things that may harm them.  If you keep in mind that Consumerium protects bodies from not-bodies, that makes it easier to remember not to use a not-body idea to try to reveal or attack any body.  This is especially important for respecting [[anonymity]].&lt;br /&gt;
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While this etiquette may make [[sysops]] sometimes more annoyed due to having to put up with more [[trolls]], no trolls will be harmed just for annoying any sysops, and this in the long run will make sysops far better life protectors!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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