Jukeboksi: fix link?

2004-08-15T11:34:41Z

fix link?

← Older revision		Revision as of 11:34, 15 August 2004
Line 1:		Line 1:
	While all kinds of things are said [[by any of us~~\|Consudev:We~~]] in [[Consumerium:Itself]] about [[politics]] and [[civics]], the actual [[policy]] should be set as much as possible by '''direct democracy'''. This suggests we mostly decide by [[referenda]].		While all kinds of things are said [[Consumerium:We\|by any of us]] in [[Consumerium:Itself]] about [[politics]] and [[civics]], the actual [[policy]] should be set as much as possible by '''direct democracy'''. This suggests we mostly decide by [[referenda]].

	However, referendum questions don't arise from nowhere, and the language they employ is also not strictly neutral, and requires some buy-in and deliberate consultation and [[outreach]] to make work. This requires some [[consensus democracy]] and [[deliberative democracy]] and some elements even of [[representative democracy]] to make work. Also, there are situations where these forms of democracy are preferable to using [[voting systems]] up-front:		However, referendum questions don't arise from nowhere, and the language they employ is also not strictly neutral, and requires some buy-in and deliberate consultation and [[outreach]] to make work. This requires some [[consensus democracy]] and [[deliberative democracy]] and some elements even of [[representative democracy]] to make work. Also, there are situations where these forms of democracy are preferable to using [[voting systems]] up-front:

Support a unified GFDL Corpus at 10:06, 15 August 2004

2004-08-15T10:06:13Z

New page

While all kinds of things are said [[by any of us|Consudev:We]] in [[Consumerium:Itself]] about [[politics]] and [[civics]], the actual [[policy]] should be set as much as possible by '''direct democracy'''. This suggests we mostly decide by [[referenda]].

However, referendum questions don't arise from nowhere, and the language they employ is also not strictly neutral, and requires some buy-in and deliberate consultation and [[outreach]] to make work. This requires some [[consensus democracy]] and [[deliberative democracy]] and some elements even of [[representative democracy]] to make work. Also, there are situations where these forms of democracy are preferable to using [[voting systems]] up-front:

*[[Consensus decision making]] should apply where a policy is constrained, where [[advice]] is offered that needs to draw on everyone's knowledge and experience and instincts, or where we have a lot of time and not many people who care - such as the exact wording of some article that is not part of [[policy]] - to understand this look at [[Page history]]. A [[consensus democracy]] may also be preferred within [[faction]]s to make joint decisions that affect only themselves. See below for some.
*[[Deliberative democracy]] should apply to [[questions]] such as the [[FAQ]], or any other open-ended issue where we don't need to make any one decision fast. Bottom-up accumulation of policy and ratification into [[what Consumerium is not]] can continue in this way until someone objects to or disputes a point. No factions required yet! Really this is what goes on, on [[Talk page]]s.
*[[Representative democracy]] starts to matter when disputes have arisen and are consistently recurring and there are so many people involved that no one has time to thoroughly understand each other in depth and must rely on some intermediaries and filters - this is when the [[faction]]s really are needed. Three functions that they can or should be called on to perform:
**An [[IP block]] ideally would be up to a user's own faction to decide - it's not something that should be done to one by an enemy who is not taking your political views into account. It should be your friends saying you've gone too far. If you have no friends, well, you are a faction unto yourself, and if you don't declare or state your agenda, maybe you're [[enemy]]?
**Before [[referenda]], each [[faction]] should be called on to ratify the wording of the question at hand. Whether or not they have participated in the deliberations beforehand. If they at least have a chance to object that the question is politically slanted or wrongly stated, or that the time of the choice is related to some particular group's agenda, the odds that they will respect the will of the majority afterwards is higher.
**When there is a dispute about the accuracy of reporting of a particular group's views or positions, the [[faction]] that holds the most similar views should be the one that makes final decisions about the wording, as they are the ones most likely to make the most subtle distinctions that the other factions don't recognize or respect.

See [[grassroots democracy]], [[anticipatory democracy]], [[participatory democracy]] and [[voting systems]] for more ways to organize [[policy]] democratically.

Direct democracy - Revision history

Jukeboksi: fix link?

Support a unified GFDL Corpus at 10:06, 15 August 2004