Consumerium talk:Brief introduction - Revision history

Jukeboksi: really short and concice answer to the user who was dissapointed and had lost interest in this project because (s)he found this wiki too vague

2005-07-11T11:03:53Z

really short and concice answer to the user who was dissapointed and had lost interest in this project because (s)he found this wiki too vague

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	I have read several pages of this wiki and still don't know what it is about or is supposed to do. Your descriptions are too vague and inaccessible to me. Too similar to those "Our goal is to meet or exceed expectations and create value for our customers!" meaningless nonsense mission statements, or maybe just creeping featurism in your ideas of what it will be? I have no idea. I've lost interest. Just letting you know. :-) - [[User:141.155.5.232\|141.155.5.232]] 18:02, 10 Jul 2005 (GMT)		I have read several pages of this wiki and still don't know what it is about or is supposed to do. Your descriptions are too vague and inaccessible to me. Too similar to those "Our goal is to meet or exceed expectations and create value for our customers!" meaningless nonsense mission statements, or maybe just creeping featurism in your ideas of what it will be? I have no idea. I've lost interest. Just letting you know. :-) - [[User:141.155.5.232\|141.155.5.232]] 18:02, 10 Jul 2005 (GMT)

			:I'm sorry to hear that. I'll try to give you a concise answer:

			:Consumerium is about:

			:# Getting more information about companies, [[product]]s, [[product group]]s, production processes and interdependencies of the before mentioned
			:## From companies
			:## From other [[consumer]]s
			:## From third parties
			:# Providing a robust, free-of-charge, high-convenience [[feedback]] facility, so you can communicate to companies of the reasons why you didn't or did choose their product.
			:# Act as a medium for consorting consumer power by [[campaign]]s and other forms of cooperation that emerge from the [[implementation wiki]].

			:--[[User:Juxo\|Juxo]] 11:03, 11 Jul 2005 (GMT)

141.155.5.232 at 18:02, 10 July 2005

2005-07-10T18:02:23Z

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	''This'' is that wiki. We invite you to participate by editing proposals and discussions below. Any page can be edited by anyone, or restored to a previous state by anyone, which is the convention we assume will also apply in operation:		''This'' is that wiki. We invite you to participate by editing proposals and discussions below. Any page can be edited by anyone, or restored to a previous state by anyone, which is the convention we assume will also apply in operation:

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			I have read several pages of this wiki and still don't know what it is about or is supposed to do. Your descriptions are too vague and inaccessible to me. Too similar to those "Our goal is to meet or exceed expectations and create value for our customers!" meaningless nonsense mission statements, or maybe just creeping featurism in your ideas of what it will be? I have no idea. I've lost interest. Just letting you know. :-) - [[User:141.155.5.232\|141.155.5.232]] 18:02, 10 Jul 2005 (GMT)

Jukeboksi: the intro is better now. thanks

2004-03-25T21:25:00Z

the intro is better now. thanks

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	::Rather than trying to create yet another "What this is, one size fits all", that will always be a compromise between trying to appeal to three quite different groups, why not work on the [[Main Page Consumer]] and [[Main Page Researcher]] instead?		::Rather than trying to create yet another "What this is, one size fits all", that will always be a compromise between trying to appeal to three quite different groups, why not work on the [[Main Page Consumer]] and [[Main Page Researcher]] instead?

			:It's better now. It links to essential terminology and is short and sharp. --[[User:Juxo\|Juxo]] 23:25, 25 Mar 2004 (EET)

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142.177.106.10 at 22:22, 21 March 2004

2004-03-21T22:22:07Z

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	:Well I'm sorry that everything I do is not great instantly ;) It's a good question about the text on the main page. It might have gotten lost in the upgrade fiasco a few days back. The main page was all blank but the history seemed to be there for a while after the upgrade. I'll work on [[Consumerium:Brief introduction]] to make it better --[[User:Juxo\|Juxo]] 14:28, 21 Mar 2004 (EET)		:Well I'm sorry that everything I do is not great instantly ;) It's a good question about the text on the main page. It might have gotten lost in the upgrade fiasco a few days back. The main page was all blank but the history seemed to be there for a while after the upgrade. I'll work on [[Consumerium:Brief introduction]] to make it better --[[User:Juxo\|Juxo]] 14:28, 21 Mar 2004 (EET)

			::Rather than trying to create yet another "What this is, one size fits all", that will always be a compromise between trying to appeal to three quite different groups, why not work on the [[Main Page Consumer]] and [[Main Page Researcher]] instead?

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			''Here's what was on the [[Main Page]] before the upgrade:''

			[[Consumerium]] is a not-for-profit project, being designed under [[GFDL]] [[licences\|license]], to develop [[w:free software\|free software]] and [[Hardware Requirements\|infrastructure]] for storage, transport and display of varying levels of [[Features\|product information]] to [[consumer]]s at the [[point of purchase]].

			A [[Consumerium Governance Organization]] may also develop or aggregate other software to assist in the compilation and validation of information to guide purchasing. For integrity reasons and to prevent bad copies and misleading competitors, this may require a more specific [[Consumerium License]] regime.

			Major activism trends to promote [[fair trade]] and [[political consumerism]] are driving several [[essential projects]] that will combine to make [[moral purchasing]] a daily reality. Consumerium intends to focus this '''''[[moral purchasing power]]''''' to keep this planet as hospitable as possible for life. Here's a summary of anticipated [[Consumerium Services]]:

			:Our front end will be seen by the [[end user]] as a [[red light\|red]]/[[yellow light\|yellow]]/[[green light]] traffic-type signal, or as a [[score]] easily translated into a [[price premium]], or as a note in [[Simple English]] about issues with, or merits of, the product. Release of this advice is keyed to [[bar code]]s.

			:There are several ways to connect back to front end: we may rely on frequently updated data embedded in hand-held devices, and/or dynamic retrieval via [[short-range wireless]] to the shelf front. Where possible, reasons for making buying decisions, or refusing a certain product, will go as [[feedback]] to the [[producer]]s.

			:Our back end relies on [[opinion wiki]] comments compiled by software using a [[wikitext standard]]. [[Semantic link]] standards may be required also. To work out the conventions and issues involved, we are working through a wiki in the R&D phase.

			''This'' is that wiki. We invite you to participate by editing proposals and discussions below. Any page can be edited by anyone, or restored to a previous state by anyone, which is the convention we assume will also apply in operation:

Jukeboksi: anwsers

2004-03-21T12:28:00Z

anwsers

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	This is not good. It starts with the wikis. It should start with the [[Consumerium buying signal]] that actually affects people's behaviour. Where's the text that was on the [[Main Page]]?		This is not good. It starts with the wikis. It should start with the [[Consumerium buying signal]] that actually affects people's behaviour. Where's the text that was on the [[Main Page]]?

			:Well I'm sorry that everything I do is not great instantly ;) It's a good question about the text on the main page. It might have gotten lost in the upgrade fiasco a few days back. The main page was all blank but the history seemed to be there for a while after the upgrade. I'll work on [[Consumerium:Brief introduction]] to make it better --[[User:Juxo\|Juxo]] 14:28, 21 Mar 2004 (EET)

142.177.97.163 at 20:02, 20 March 2004

2004-03-20T20:02:46Z

New page

This is not good. It starts with the wikis. It should start with the [[Consumerium buying signal]] that actually affects people's behaviour. Where's the text that was on the [[Main Page]]?