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	~~There's a bomb in scumbag Fraser Anning's office right now~~.		Simple is beautiful, natural and good. Or is it some other way around?

	By,		Philosophy boils down to that if we combine '''information''' about production processes, '''buying power''' and '''compassionate hearts''' then something good will come out of it.

	~~unclenicolini~~		Consumerium does not seek to artificially alter the functioning of [[market economy]], lazy as we are, we leave that to the politicians.

			Consumerium simply aims to make things more transparent to the [[consumer]] so s/he ''can'' see further and exert '''[[moral purchasing]] power''' with the same $$$ as before. It is up to the consumer to decide what to do with this enhanced view into economic processes and increased power, if anything.

			[[Product]]s in the common case consist of three things: [[Material]], [[Information]] and [[Energy]]. To merge or forge or transform ''materials'' is actually ''embedding information'' into the ''material'' which takes ''energy'' to do.

			We would like in particular to avoid [[governance]] problems that arise when we trust our own judgement too much, permit bad examples from elsewhere to be mimicked without justification, allow conflicts of interest, etc.

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	~~Simple is beautiful, natural and good~~. ~~Or is it some other way around?~~		There's a bomb in scumbag Fraser Anning's office right now.

	~~Philosophy boils down to that if we combine '''information''' about production processes~~, ~~'''buying power''' and '''compassionate hearts''' then something good will come out of it.~~		By,

	~~Consumerium does not seek to artificially alter the functioning of [[market economy]], lazy as we are, we leave that to the politicians.~~		unclenicolini

	Consumerium simply aims to make things more transparent to the [[consumer]] so s/he ''can'' see further and exert '''[[moral purchasing]] power''' with the same $$$ as before. It is up to the consumer to decide what to do with this enhanced view into economic processes and increased power, if anything.

	[[Product]]s in the common case consist of three things: [[Material]], [[Information]] and [[Energy]]. To merge or forge or transform ''materials'' is actually ''embedding information'' into the ''material'' which takes ''energy'' to do.

	We would like in particular to avoid [[governance]] problems that arise when we trust our own judgement too much, permit bad examples from elsewhere to be mimicked without justification, allow conflicts of interest, etc.

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	Consumerium simply aims to make things more transparent to the [[consumer]] so s/he ''can'' see further and exert '''[[moral purchasing]] power''' with the same $$$ as before. It is up to the consumer to decide what to do with this enhanced view into economic processes and increased power, if anything.		Consumerium simply aims to make things more transparent to the [[consumer]] so s/he ''can'' see further and exert '''[[moral purchasing]] power''' with the same $$$ as before. It is up to the consumer to decide what to do with this enhanced view into economic processes and increased power, if anything.

	[[~~Consumerium~~:~~Itself~~]] ~~contains all the information required to change it. It is~~ [[~~reflexive~~]]. ~~This~~ is ~~what makes it likely to work, even if~~ the ~~starting place is wrong. The only assumption we make, is to make no assumptions that we aren~~'~~t forced~~ to ~~make~~.		[[Product]]s in the common case consist of three things: [[Material]], [[Information]] and [[Energy]]. To merge or forge or transform ''materials'' is actually ''embedding information'' into the ''material'' which takes ''energy'' to do.

	We would like in particular to avoid [[governance]] problems that arise when we trust our own judgement too much, permit bad examples from elsewhere to be mimicked without justification, allow conflicts of interest, etc.		We would like in particular to avoid [[governance]] problems that arise when we trust our own judgement too much, permit bad examples from elsewhere to be mimicked without justification, allow conflicts of interest, etc.

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	[[Consumerium:Itself]] contains all the information required to change it. It is [[reflexive]]. This is what makes it likely to work, even if the starting place is wrong. The only assumption we make, is to make no assumptions that we aren't forced to make.		[[Consumerium:Itself]] contains all the information required to change it. It is [[reflexive]]. This is what makes it likely to work, even if the starting place is wrong. The only assumption we make, is to make no assumptions that we aren't forced to make.

	We would like in particular to avoid [[governance]] problems that arise when we trust our own judgement too much, permit bad examples from elsewhere to be mimicked without justification, allow conflicts of interest, etc~~.. That would be too much like [http://truthout.org/docs_04/011704E.shtml these people here]~~.		We would like in particular to avoid [[governance]] problems that arise when we trust our own judgement too much, permit bad examples from elsewhere to be mimicked without justification, allow conflicts of interest, etc.

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	[[Consumerium:Itself]] contains all the information required to change it. It is [[reflexive]]. This is what makes it likely to work, even if the starting place is wrong. The only assumption we make, is to make no assumptions that we aren't forced to make.		[[Consumerium:Itself]] contains all the information required to change it. It is [[reflexive]]. This is what makes it likely to work, even if the starting place is wrong. The only assumption we make, is to make no assumptions that we aren't forced to make.

			We would like in particular to avoid [[governance]] problems that arise when we trust our own judgement too much, permit bad examples from elsewhere to be mimicked without justification, allow conflicts of interest, etc.. That would be too much like [http://truthout.org/docs_04/011704E.shtml these people here].

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	Consumerium does not seek to artificially alter the functioning of [[market economy]], lazy as we are, we leave that to the politicians.		Consumerium does not seek to artificially alter the functioning of [[market economy]], lazy as we are, we leave that to the politicians.

	Consumerium simply aims to make things more transparent to the [[consumer]] so s/he ''can'' see further and exert '''[[moral purchasing]] power''' with the same $$$ as before. It is up to the consumer to decide what to do with this enhanced view into economic processes and ~~incresed~~ power, if anything.		Consumerium simply aims to make things more transparent to the [[consumer]] so s/he ''can'' see further and exert '''[[moral purchasing]] power''' with the same $$$ as before. It is up to the consumer to decide what to do with this enhanced view into economic processes and increased power, if anything.

	[[Consumerium:Itself]] contains all the information required to change it. It is [[reflexive]]. This is what makes it likely to work, even if the starting place is wrong. The only assumption we make, is to make no assumptions that we aren't forced to make.		[[Consumerium:Itself]] contains all the information required to change it. It is [[reflexive]]. This is what makes it likely to work, even if the starting place is wrong. The only assumption we make, is to make no assumptions that we aren't forced to make.

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	Philosophy boils down to that if we combine '''information''' about production processes, '''buying power''' and '''compassionate hearts''' then something good will come out of it.		Philosophy boils down to that if we combine '''information''' about production processes, '''buying power''' and '''compassionate hearts''' then something good will come out of it.

	Consumerium does not seek to artificially alter the functioning of [[market economy]], lazy as we are, we leave that to the politicians ~~and activists who are willing to do more than type code and specs and opinions~~.		Consumerium does not seek to artificially alter the functioning of [[market economy]], lazy as we are, we leave that to the politicians.

	Consumerium simply aims to make things more transparent to the [[consumer]] so s/he ''can'' see further and exert '''[[moral purchasing]] power''' with the same $$$ as before. It is up to the consumer to decide what to do with this enhanced view into economic processes and incresed power, if anything.		Consumerium simply aims to make things more transparent to the [[consumer]] so s/he ''can'' see further and exert '''[[moral purchasing]] power''' with the same $$$ as before. It is up to the consumer to decide what to do with this enhanced view into economic processes and incresed power, if anything.

	[[Consumerium:Itself]] contains all the information required to change it. It is [[reflexive]]. This is what makes it likely to work, even if the starting place is wrong. The only assumption we make, is to make no assumptions that we aren't forced to make.		[[Consumerium:Itself]] contains all the information required to change it. It is [[reflexive]]. This is what makes it likely to work, even if the starting place is wrong. The only assumption we make, is to make no assumptions that we aren't forced to make.

	A fully [[Transparent Consumerium]] is a long term goal we may never reach. But if we could, we would. We don't have any special insight into any of this. We just got here first to lay the foundations. You are as likely as we are to be right. That's why this is a wiki, and why you can always [http://www.consumerium.org/wiki/wiki.phtml?title=Consudev:Philosophy&action=edit "edit this page"] if you disagree.

	~~We can't really make it any simpler than that.~~

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	A fully [[Transparent Consumerium]] is a long term goal we may never reach. But if we could, we would. We don't have any special insight into any of this. We just got here first to lay the foundations. You are as likely as we are to be right. That's why this is a wiki, and why you can always [http://www.consumerium.org/wiki/wiki.phtml?title=Consudev:Philosophy&action=edit "edit this page"] if you disagree.		A fully [[Transparent Consumerium]] is a long term goal we may never reach. But if we could, we would. We don't have any special insight into any of this. We just got here first to lay the foundations. You are as likely as we are to be right. That's why this is a wiki, and why you can always [http://www.consumerium.org/wiki/wiki.phtml?title=Consudev:Philosophy&action=edit "edit this page"] if you disagree.

	We can ~~not~~ really make it any simpler than that.		We can't really make it any simpler than that.

80.221.249.39 at 11:02, 11 November 2003

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	A fully [[Transparent Consumerium]] is a long term goal we may never reach. But if we could, we would. We don't have any special insight into any of this. We just got here first to lay the foundations. You are as likely as we are to be right. That's why this is a wiki, and why you can always [http://www.consumerium.org/wiki/wiki.phtml?title=Consudev:Philosophy&action=edit "edit this page"] if you disagree.		A fully [[Transparent Consumerium]] is a long term goal we may never reach. But if we could, we would. We don't have any special insight into any of this. We just got here first to lay the foundations. You are as likely as we are to be right. That's why this is a wiki, and why you can always [http://www.consumerium.org/wiki/wiki.phtml?title=Consudev:Philosophy&action=edit "edit this page"] if you disagree.

	We can't really make it any simpler than that.		We can not really make it any simpler than that.