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		<title>142.177.82.21 at 18:57, 11 February 2004</title>
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		<updated>2004-02-11T18:57:26Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Conflicts between users&#039;&#039;&#039; must take limited cognizance of their status on the [[Opinion Wiki]] or [[Content Wiki]].  &#039;&#039;These are guidelines for resolving conflicts on either - the rules on each can be expected to vary somewhat.&#039;&#039;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Conflicts between users&#039;&#039;&#039; must take limited cognizance of their status on the [[Opinion Wiki]] or [[Content Wiki]].  &#039;&#039;These are guidelines for resolving conflicts on either - the rules on each can be expected to vary somewhat.&#039;&#039; &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt; A process for resolving these is a key part of [[Consumerium Governance]]:&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Most important:  Whoever has the most technological power must be assumed to be in the wrong until they can prove they are right.  This is the only way to balance [[sysop power structure]] and is similar to the presumed innocence of those who come up against the state (which has more technological power and social credibility).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Most important:  Whoever has the most technological power must be assumed to be in the wrong until they can prove they are right.  This is the only way to balance [[sysop power structure]] and is similar to the presumed innocence of those who come up against the state (which has more technological power and social credibility). &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt; &#039;&#039;This is one of many reasons to be [[troll-friendly]].&#039;&#039;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*Typically, only one user will want the dialogue to be public and uncensored (if both wanted it private, it would be in [[use of email|email]] or [[use of IM|IM]] obviously).  So the wiki form of the dialogue should be handled this way:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*Typically, only one user will want the dialogue to be public and uncensored (if both wanted it private, it would be in [[use of email|email]] or [[use of IM|IM]] obviously).  So the wiki form of the dialogue should be handled this way:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>142.177.82.21 at 18:56, 11 February 2004</title>
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		<updated>2004-02-11T18:56:24Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Most important:  Whoever has the most technological power must be assumed to be in the wrong until they can prove they are right.  This is the only way to balance [[sysop power structure]] and is similar to the presumed innocence of those who come up against the state (which has more technological power and social credibility).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Most important:  Whoever has the most technological power must be assumed to be in the wrong until they can prove they are right.  This is the only way to balance [[sysop power structure]] and is similar to the presumed innocence of those who come up against the state (which has more technological power and social credibility).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>142.177.82.21: guidelines</title>
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		<updated>2004-02-11T18:55:48Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;guidelines&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Conflicts between users&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; must take limited cognizance of their status on the [[Opinion Wiki]] or [[Content Wiki]].  A good rule of thumb is that &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Most important:  Whoever has the most technological power must be assumed to be in the wrong until they can prove they are right.  This is the only way to balance [[sysop power structure]] and is similar to the presumed innocence of those who come up against the state (which has more technological power and social credibility).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Typically, only one user will want the dialogue to be public and uncensored (if both wanted it private, it would be in [[use of email|email]] or [[use of IM|IM]] obviously).  So the wiki form of the dialogue should be handled this way:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
** The user(s) seeking to expose the dialogue must put all relevant exchanges they are aware of, as a subpage to their article page, detailing as completely as possible, their exchange or issue with the other.  Examples are [[142.X.X.X/Angela]] and [[142.X.X.X/Tim_Starling]].   Note:  These must NOT go in the User: space, else dialogue falls under the control of only one party, at least according to the rules sometimes proposed by [[User:Angela]] (each user controlling their own user space).&lt;br /&gt;
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*** Suggestion:  If a group of users has an issue with another group, that must be handled by each side &amp;#039;&amp;#039;adopting the assumed name and unity of identity that their opponents have accussed them of.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;  That is, if three users are considered to be one and treated as one, they must answer as a group - under the name that is assumed to be that of one person.  Failure to respect this principle leads to [[outing]] and failures to consult each other and this can only end in [[divide and conquer]] tactics that do not get at the truth, but rather, break up [[faction]]s by technical means.&lt;br /&gt;
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** Censorship of talk files must be strongly discouraged, and links to the dialogue must be added where talk has been moved.  Exploitation of developer or sysop powers, or [[distraction]] tactics (moving some talk while deleting other talk at the same time as part of a lot of edits, as [[User:Angela]] is known to do), must be strongly discouraged as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Dialogue should be left alone, with only factual corrections made without comment.  Those making such corrections should avoid assigning motives or doing any [[psychiatry]], leaving &amp;quot;the two&amp;quot; to resolve their issues as much as they can, alone.  Let them settle their [[Duelling POV]] issues without intervention.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Look for a [[troll bridge]], [[political dispute]]s and other ordinary issues that can be resolved or at least characterized more easily.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Discourage use of labels;  Encourage those labelled to turn the label around and make it a mark of pride, e.g. &amp;quot;[[trolls]]&amp;quot;.  Destroy the cognitive power of those labels everywhere by rendering them morally neutral or even desirable.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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