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	More generalized verbs like [[ask]], [[fix]], [[revert]], [[drive off]] and [[patroll]] are quite possible given a more complete understanding of the [[power structure]] and '''command hierarchy''' of people obeying each other's orders, e.g. the [[priestly hierarchy]] that surrounds the [[GodKing]] preaching [[Wikimedia corruption]] and [[systemic bias]] as a [[Good Thing]], or the [[troll organizations]] that practice [[political virtues]] instead.		More generalized verbs like [[ask]], [[fix]], [[revert]], [[drive off]] and [[patroll]] are quite possible given a more complete understanding of the [[power structure]] and '''command hierarchy''' of people obeying each other's orders, e.g. the [[priestly hierarchy]] that surrounds the [[GodKing]] preaching [[Wikimedia corruption]] and [[systemic bias]] as a [[Good Thing]], or the [[troll organizations]] that practice [[political virtues]] instead.

	Since such '''socialized verbs''' are [[factionally defined]] and may actually dispose of [[capital asset]]s, e.g. the way that abuse of [[trolls]] wastes [[individual capital]] of those so labelled, the stakes can be quite high and would involve [[politics as usual]] or at least [[social network]] and [[instructional capital]] investigations. Perhaps even [[financial capital]] interactions, e.g. of the [[funded troll]]s. ~~Projects like a [[revert currency]] might~~		Since such '''socialized verbs''' are [[factionally defined]] and may actually dispose of [[capital asset]]s, e.g. the way that abuse of [[trolls]] wastes [[individual capital]] of those so labelled, the stakes can be quite high and would involve [[politics as usual]] or at least [[social network]] and [[instructional capital]] investigations. Perhaps even [[financial capital]] interactions, e.g. of the [[funded troll]]s.

	This be at least a [[computer supported cooperative work]] and [[social software]] design problem not simply a "one user one screen" [[GUI]] - it would involve much more understanding of some [[factionally defined]] terms and how [[faction]]s collaborate and/or compete to accomplish any given objective or [[wiki mission]]. It seems more must be known about [[large public wiki]]s first.		This be at least a [[computer supported cooperative work]] and [[social software]] design problem not simply a "one user one screen" [[GUI]] - it would involve much more understanding of some [[factionally defined]] terms and how [[faction]]s collaborate and/or compete to accomplish any given objective or [[wiki mission]]. It seems more must be known about [[large public wiki]]s first.

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	Since such '''socialized verbs''' are [[factionally defined]] and may actually dispose of [[capital asset]]s, e.g. the way that abuse of [[trolls]] wastes [[individual capital]] of those so labelled, the stakes can be quite high and would involve [[politics as usual]] or at least [[social network]] and [[instructional capital]] investigations. Perhaps even [[financial capital]] interactions, e.g. of the [[funded troll]]s. Projects like a [[revert currency]] might		Since such '''socialized verbs''' are [[factionally defined]] and may actually dispose of [[capital asset]]s, e.g. the way that abuse of [[trolls]] wastes [[individual capital]] of those so labelled, the stakes can be quite high and would involve [[politics as usual]] or at least [[social network]] and [[instructional capital]] investigations. Perhaps even [[financial capital]] interactions, e.g. of the [[funded troll]]s. Projects like a [[revert currency]] might

	This be at least a [[computer supported cooperative work]] and [[social software]] design problem not simply a "one user one screen" [[GUI]] - it would involve much more understanding of some [[factionally defined]] terms and how [[faction]]s collaborate and/or compete to accomplish any given objective or [[wiki mission]]. It seems more must be known about [[large public wiki]s first.		This be at least a [[computer supported cooperative work]] and [[social software]] design problem not simply a "one user one screen" [[GUI]] - it would involve much more understanding of some [[factionally defined]] terms and how [[faction]]s collaborate and/or compete to accomplish any given objective or [[wiki mission]]. It seems more must be known about [[large public wiki]]s first.

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	=== command hierarchy ===		=== command hierarchy ===

	More generalized verbs like [[ask]], [[fix]], [[revert]], [[drive off]] and [[patroll]] are quite possible given a more complete understanding of the [[power structure]] and '''command hierarchy''' of people obeying each other's orders, e.g. the [[priestly hierarchy]] that surrounds the [[GodKing]] preaching [[~~Wikipedia~~ corruption]].		More generalized verbs like [[ask]], [[fix]], [[revert]], [[drive off]] and [[patroll]] are quite possible given a more complete understanding of the [[power structure]] and '''command hierarchy''' of people obeying each other's orders, e.g. the [[priestly hierarchy]] that surrounds the [[GodKing]] preaching [[Wikimedia corruption]] and [[systemic bias]] as a [[Good Thing]], or the [[troll organizations]] that practice [[political virtues]] instead.

	Since such ~~generalized~~ verbs may actually dispose of [[capital asset]]s, e.g. the way that abuse of [[trolls]] wastes [[individual capital]] of those so labelled, the stakes can be quite high and would involve [[politics as usual]] or at least [[social network]] and [[instructional capital]] investigations. Perhaps even [[financial capital]] interactions, e.g. of the [[funded troll]]s. Projects like a [[revert currency]] might		Since such '''socialized verbs''' are [[factionally defined]] and may actually dispose of [[capital asset]]s, e.g. the way that abuse of [[trolls]] wastes [[individual capital]] of those so labelled, the stakes can be quite high and would involve [[politics as usual]] or at least [[social network]] and [[instructional capital]] investigations. Perhaps even [[financial capital]] interactions, e.g. of the [[funded troll]]s. Projects like a [[revert currency]] might

	This be at least a [[computer supported cooperative work]] and [[social software]] design problem not simply a "one user one screen" [[GUI]] - it would involve much more understanding of some [[factionally defined]] terms and how [[faction]]s collaborate and/or compete to accomplish any given objective or [[wiki mission]]. It seems more must be known about [[large public wiki]s first.		This be at least a [[computer supported cooperative work]] and [[social software]] design problem not simply a "one user one screen" [[GUI]] - it would involve much more understanding of some [[factionally defined]] terms and how [[faction]]s collaborate and/or compete to accomplish any given objective or [[wiki mission]]. It seems more must be known about [[large public wiki]s first.

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	:Since the use of some verbs by some users actually categorizes people or their work, the worst of these confusions is that between [[trolls]] and the (many) [[IP block]]s generated to slow them down: sometimes [[sysop power structure]] cannot actually tell the difference between the initial action ("to [[troll]]"), the [[Sysop Vandal point of view\|opinion or process that leads to the sysop reaction]], the output of that action, e.g. an [[IP range block]], and the implication of what it means to edit from that IP ("to be [[trolled]]", etc.). These are all obviously quite different things, but it makes [[power grab]]s easier to deliberately confuse them. One could explain the confusion asa form of simple [[stupidity]]. However it could also be explained as a form of [[objectification]] or as a consequence of, say, [[Wikimedia corruption]] - these explanations would make sysops out to be more [[vile]] but less stupid.		:Since the use of some verbs by some users actually categorizes people or their work, the worst of these confusions is that between [[trolls]] and the (many) [[IP block]]s generated to slow them down: sometimes [[sysop power structure]] cannot actually tell the difference between the initial action ("to [[troll]]"), the [[Sysop Vandal point of view\|opinion or process that leads to the sysop reaction]], the output of that action, e.g. an [[IP range block]], and the implication of what it means to edit from that IP ("to be [[trolled]]", etc.). These are all obviously quite different things, but it makes [[power grab]]s easier to deliberately confuse them. One could explain the confusion asa form of simple [[stupidity]]. However it could also be explained as a form of [[objectification]] or as a consequence of, say, [[Wikimedia corruption]] - these explanations would make sysops out to be more [[vile]] but less stupid.

	More generalized verbs like [[ask]], [[fix]], [[revert]], [[drive off]] and [[patroll]] are quite possible given a more complete understanding of the [[power structure]]. This ~~would however~~ be a [[social ~~network~~]] design problem not a [[GUI]] ~~one~~ - it would involve much more understanding of some [[factionally defined]] terms and how [[faction]]s ~~decide to~~ collaborate to accomplish any given objective.		=== command hierarchy ===

			More generalized verbs like [[ask]], [[fix]], [[revert]], [[drive off]] and [[patroll]] are quite possible given a more complete understanding of the [[power structure]] and '''command hierarchy''' of people obeying each other's orders, e.g. the [[priestly hierarchy]] that surrounds the [[GodKing]] preaching [[Wikipedia corruption]].

			Since such generalized verbs may actually dispose of [[capital asset]]s, e.g. the way that abuse of [[trolls]] wastes [[individual capital]] of those so labelled, the stakes can be quite high and would involve [[politics as usual]] or at least [[social network]] and [[instructional capital]] investigations. Perhaps even [[financial capital]] interactions, e.g. of the [[funded troll]]s. Projects like a [[revert currency]] might

			This be at least a [[computer supported cooperative work]] and [[social software]] design problem not simply a "one user one screen" [[GUI]] - it would involve much more understanding of some [[factionally defined]] terms and how [[faction]]s collaborate and/or compete to accomplish any given objective or [[wiki mission]]. It seems more must be known about [[large public wiki]s first.

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	In [[user interface design]], a '''command verb''' is a [[verb]] or [[verb phrase]] that actually triggers some software functionality, e.g. [[edit page]], [[search]], [[log in]], [[help]], [[talk]], [[block IP]] address etc.		In [[user interface design]], a '''command verb''' is a [[verb]] or [[verb phrase]] that actually triggers some software functionality, e.g. [[edit page]], [[search]], [[log in]], [[help]], [[talk]], [[block IP]] address etc.

	Sometimes such verbs are confused and may have [[subject-object problem]]s. For instance, [[help]] usually means "help ''me the user''", while [[talk]] usually means "talk ''to someone else''".		Sometimes such verbs are confused and may have [[subject-object problem]]s. For instance, [[help]] usually means "help ''me the user''", while [[talk]] usually means "talk ''to someone else''". This can make them harder to learn, as the assumed object (usually assumed [[noun phrase]] or [[pronoun]]) of the '''command phrase''' must be simply guessed or known in advance.

	:~~The~~ worst of these confusions is that between [[trolls]] and the (many) [[IP block]]s generated to slow them down: sometimes [[sysop power structure]] cannot actually tell the difference between the initial action ("to [[troll]]"), the [[Sysop Vandal point of view\|opinion or process that leads to the sysop reaction]], the output of that action, e.g. an [[IP range block]], and the implication of what it means to edit from that IP ("to be [[trolled]]", etc.). These are all obviously quite different things, but it makes [[power grab]]s easier to deliberately confuse them. One could explain the confusion asa form of simple [[stupidity]]. However it could also be explained as a form of [[objectification]] or as a consequence of, say, [[Wikimedia corruption]] - these explanations would make sysops out to be more [[vile]] but less stupid.		:Since the use of some verbs by some users actually categorizes people or their work, the worst of these confusions is that between [[trolls]] and the (many) [[IP block]]s generated to slow them down: sometimes [[sysop power structure]] cannot actually tell the difference between the initial action ("to [[troll]]"), the [[Sysop Vandal point of view\|opinion or process that leads to the sysop reaction]], the output of that action, e.g. an [[IP range block]], and the implication of what it means to edit from that IP ("to be [[trolled]]", etc.). These are all obviously quite different things, but it makes [[power grab]]s easier to deliberately confuse them. One could explain the confusion asa form of simple [[stupidity]]. However it could also be explained as a form of [[objectification]] or as a consequence of, say, [[Wikimedia corruption]] - these explanations would make sysops out to be more [[vile]] but less stupid.

	More generalized verbs like [[ask]], [[fix]], [[revert]], [[drive off]] are quite possible given a more complete understanding of the [[power structure]]. This would however be a [[social network]] design problem not a [[GUI]] one - it would involve much more understanding of some [[factionally defined]] terms and how [[faction]]s decide to collaborate to accomplish any given objective.		More generalized verbs like [[ask]], [[fix]], [[revert]], [[drive off]] and [[patroll]] are quite possible given a more complete understanding of the [[power structure]]. This would however be a [[social network]] design problem not a [[GUI]] one - it would involve much more understanding of some [[factionally defined]] terms and how [[faction]]s decide to collaborate to accomplish any given objective.

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	Sometimes such verbs are confused and may have [[subject-object problem]]s. For instance, [[help]] usually means "help ''me the user''", while [[talk]] usually means "talk ''to someone else''".		Sometimes such verbs are confused and may have [[subject-object problem]]s. For instance, [[help]] usually means "help ''me the user''", while [[talk]] usually means "talk ''to someone else''".

	:The worst of these confusions is that between [[trolls]] and the (many) [[IP ~~range~~ block]]s generated to slow them down: sometimes [[sysop power structure]] cannot actually tell the difference between the opinion or process that leads to ~~their action~~, ~~and~~ the output of ~~the~~ action, and the implication of what it means to edit from that IP. ~~The most general word for this sort~~ of ~~phenomenon is~~ [[stupidity]].		:The worst of these confusions is that between [[trolls]] and the (many) [[IP block]]s generated to slow them down: sometimes [[sysop power structure]] cannot actually tell the difference between the initial action ("to [[troll]]"), the [[Sysop Vandal point of view\|opinion or process that leads to the sysop reaction]], the output of that action, e.g. an [[IP range block]], and the implication of what it means to edit from that IP ("to be [[trolled]]", etc.). These are all obviously quite different things, but it makes [[power grab]]s easier to deliberately confuse them. One could explain the confusion asa form of simple [[stupidity]]. However it could also be explained as a form of [[objectification]] or as a consequence of, say, [[Wikimedia corruption]] - these explanations would make sysops out to be more [[vile]] but less stupid.

	More generalized verbs like [[ask]], [[fix]], [[revert]], [[drive off]] are quite possible given a more complete understanding of the [[power structure]].		More generalized verbs like [[ask]], [[fix]], [[revert]], [[drive off]] are quite possible given a more complete understanding of the [[power structure]]. This would however be a [[social network]] design problem not a [[GUI]] one - it would involve much more understanding of some [[factionally defined]] terms and how [[faction]]s decide to collaborate to accomplish any given objective.
	This would however be a [[social network]] design problem not a [[GUI]] one.

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In [[user interface design]], a '''command verb''' is a [[verb]] or [[verb phrase]] that actually triggers some software functionality, e.g. [[edit page]], [[search]], [[log in]], [[help]], [[talk]], [[block IP]] address etc.

Sometimes such verbs are confused and may have [[subject-object problem]]s. For instance, [[help]] usually means "help ''me the user''", while [[talk]] usually means "talk ''to someone else''".

:The worst of these confusions is that between [[trolls]] and the (many) [[IP range block]]s generated to slow them down: sometimes [[sysop power structure]] cannot actually tell the difference between the opinion or process that leads to their action, and the output of the action, and the implication of what it means to edit from that IP. The most general word for this sort of phenomenon is [[stupidity]].

More generalized verbs like [[ask]], [[fix]], [[revert]], [[drive off]] are quite possible given a more complete understanding of the [[power structure]].
This would however be a [[social network]] design problem not a [[GUI]] one.