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<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 16:05, 26 June 2004</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>A '''bad user interface''' is one that makes implementation easier, not the user's experience easier.  Most good programmers doing their best to design a user interface will produce a very '''bad user interface'''.  User interfaces should never be designed by programmers - one of the major [[problems <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">of </del>free software and open source models]] is that programmers do what they themselves want, not what the end users want.  This is just another example of overtrust in one's own judgement, [[systemic bias]] and [[groupthink]] leading to bad decisions.  For example [[User:Juxo]] writes:</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>A '''bad user interface''' is one that makes implementation easier, not the user's experience easier.  Most good programmers doing their best to design a user interface will produce a very '''bad user interface'''.  User interfaces should never be designed by programmers - one of the major [[problems <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">with </ins>free software and open source models]] is that programmers do what they themselves want, not what the end users want.  This is just another example of overtrust in one's own judgement, [[systemic bias]] and [[groupthink]] leading to bad decisions.  For example [[User:Juxo]] writes:</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:&quot;I really want a separate Opinion Wiki simply because we can aggregate data (votes on campaigns etc.) via SQL queries so we don&#039;t need to mess up MediaWiki &quot;</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:&quot;I really want a separate Opinion Wiki simply because we can aggregate data (votes on campaigns etc.) via SQL queries so we don&#039;t need to mess up MediaWiki &quot;</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> </table>

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<p></p> <p><b>New page</b></p><div>A &#039;&#039;&#039;bad user interface&#039;&#039;&#039; is one that makes implementation easier, not the user&#039;s experience easier. Most good programmers doing their best to design a user interface will produce a very &#039;&#039;&#039;bad user interface&#039;&#039;&#039;. User interfaces should never be designed by programmers - one of the major [[problems of free software and open source models]] is that programmers do what they themselves want, not what the end users want. This is just another example of overtrust in one&#039;s own judgement, [[systemic bias]] and [[groupthink]] leading to bad decisions. For example [[User:Juxo]] writes:<br /> :&quot;I really want a separate Opinion Wiki simply because we can aggregate data (votes on campaigns etc.) via SQL queries so we don&#039;t need to mess up MediaWiki &quot;<br /> <br /> Notice the various bad assumptions:<br /> *[[edits, votes and bets]] can be managed through &quot;SQL queries&quot;, which assumes that bad [[wiki code]] that actually relies on SQL is in use in all these wikis<br /> *creating a separate visible user interface entity to force users to decide to move things around collectively, causing fights, instead of using a neutral or objective method to do it within one interface, as [[politics as usual]] demands<br /> *[[MediaWiki]], instead of being cloned or scrapped, is somehow always in use<br /> <br /> It&#039;s obvious that belief in the use of [[MediaWiki]] itself is creating &#039;&#039;&#039;bad user interface&#039;&#039;&#039; decisions. Perhaps it is time to consider [[MoinMoin]] or [[Tikiwiki]] again.</div>

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