https://develop.consumerium.org/w/api.php?action=feedcontributions&feedformat=atom&user=Wittgenstein 2026-05-09T18:09:02Z User contributions MediaWiki 1.43.6 https://develop.consumerium.org/w/index.php?title=Consumerium_talk:Rules&diff=4519 2004-07-23T17:25:01Z

<p>Wittgenstein: on colors, trolls and factions</p> <hr /> <div>We should talk about [[every body]] and [[any body]], and also [[some body]] and [[no body]], wherever we can. These terms are very clear, but [[user]], [[troll]], [[sysop]], [[community]], [[registered user]], [[bunch of IP numbers that seem to say kind of the same things]] are not.<br /> <br /> [[No body]] = bots, corporations, ideologies, God<br /> <br /> [[Some body]] = alive and able to feel something, and we care about it, e.g. humans, orang-utans, whales<br /> <br /> [[Any body]] = any body who counts as some body, indefinite article, inclusive.<br /> <br /> [[Every body]] = all the some bodies together with no no bodies included<br /> <br /> [[Body politic]] = those bodies we care to represent<br /> <br /> <br /> ---<br /> <br /> <br /> About persons, e.g. [[Gus Kouwenhoven]], &quot;Do that in Disinfopedia or Wikipedia so we don't have to worry about Disinformation or being Biased so much yet.&quot;<br /> <br /> This policy is right. But according to those, this is quite possibly the worst person in the world who is not running a government but a corporation. Surely we should not *originate* such reports, but why can't we *reflect* them?<br /> <br /> We need *some* bad examples of people worth stopping, or else, we won't attract the people here who really want to stop them. It's only those people that have the motivation to get this done.<br /> ----<br /> I have observed these users who prefer them to be refered to as [[trolls]] ''(plural)'' and confusingly also as [[troll]] ''(singular)'' which they denounce as ''not applicable'' on many, many counts as they refuse identity. These &quot;trolls&quot; seem to insist that proper [[wiki governance]] can be achieved only by implementing a way of categorizing people in things they call [[faction]]s. They constantly attack the integrity of [[sysops]] and especially software developers accusing them of [[corruption]]; the sole source of corruption to be more precise and quite simultaneously they push for confining people into factions identified by [[Silly colorology|colors]] on something they call a [[political spectrum]] and not noting the fact that they have formed a faction called the simply &quot;The [[Trolls]]&quot;, which is without any color. <br /> <br /> Having their own faction that has no color thus it is not viewable to human eyes renders them transparent giving them superiour stealth for doing many kinds of power grabbing. They (the trolls) may be useful in some ways for us to reach our stated goal of enabling [[political consumerism]] but I must strongly suggest that they cease to demand that [[faction]]s be associated with colors while they insist on remaining without color. If they do not do this peacefully a [[sysop power structure]] will have to be formed to see to that this outrageous inbalance of this theatre is eradicated. --[[User:Wittgenstein|Wittgenstein]] 20:25, 23 Jul 2004 (EEST)</div>

Wittgenstein https://develop.consumerium.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Wittgenstein&diff=1230 2003-08-30T10:05:35Z

<p>Wittgenstein: what is consumerium?</p> <hr /> <div>Are you trying to induce vomiting or what is the goal of this project?<br /> <br /> :Umm.. no, it's just your imagination. Can you be more specific about that? mmm. Ok. I see your point. BTW. we've been vandalised in the past by some passworsdpoofer who totally messed up logo 0.1. Shame on you evil passwdrospoofer. Shame on me for using FTP before I got me unix system. Welcome to consumerium Ludvig. I hope you like it here. [[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 11:59 Apr 6, 2003 (EEST)<br /> <br /> So is consumerium a passobject for the not-so-secret Karachi Drag Party with Mr. M. and Mrs. H.?</div>

Wittgenstein https://develop.consumerium.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Wittgenstein&diff=284 2003-04-06T11:44:29Z

<p>Wittgenstein: </p> <hr /> <div>Are you trying to induce vomiting or what is the goal of this project?</div>

Wittgenstein https://develop.consumerium.org/w/index.php?title=User:Wittgenstein&diff=13477 2003-04-06T11:43:38Z

<p>Wittgenstein: </p> <hr /> <div>Ehlo. Ludvig here.</div>

Wittgenstein https://develop.consumerium.org/w/index.php?title=User:Wittgenstein&diff=283 2003-04-06T11:42:57Z

<p>Wittgenstein: </p> <hr /> <div>Ehlo. Ludvig here. Are you trying to induce vomiting or what is the goal of this project?</div>

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